Who needs Florida when you have New Jersey ?

[Jolly Mon]

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I had no idea so many shipwreck coins have been found in New Jersey---
Corson's Inlet, Ocean City, Long Beach Island---all well documented.

Anyone ever done any offshore work in these areas ?
I went to a couple of internet New Jersey dive sites and was somewhat surprised at the relatively good visibility in the photos...apparently this is not an aberration...



The bathymetry of the Long Beach Island area is very similar to that of the Treasure Coast---the 3 fathom curve is generally 200 yards or so offshore. The wreck or wrecks producing the cobs should be very close in.

I find it fascinating that beachcombers in 1914 recognized that the coins only start showing up when the beaches are being cut from a certain direction---probably the NE.

Who is going to be New Jersey's answer to Kip Wagner?

If this Gardner fellow can seek to claim the Ella Warley, the salvage laws in New Jersey might be somewhat reasonable---more research needed on this topic...

I also remember something about WW I munitions being dredged up in the area a while back---which might also present a problem...

I wonder if anyone is surreptitiously working in this area...

 

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I had no idea so many shipwreck coins have been found in New Jersey---
Corson's Inlet, Ocean City, Long Beach Island---all well documented.

Anyone ever done any offshore work in these areas ?
I went to a couple of internet New Jersey dive sites and was somewhat surprised at the relatively good visibility in the photos...apparently this is not an aberration...

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The bathymetry of the Long Beach Island area is very similar to that of the Treasure Coast---the 3 fathom curve is generally 200 yards or so offshore. The wreck or wrecks producing the cobs should be very close in.

I find it fascinating that beachcombers in 1914 recognized that the coins only start showing up when the beaches are being cut from a certain direction---probably the NE.

Who is going to be New Jersey's answer to Kip Wagner?

If this Gardner fellow can seek to claim the Ella Warley, the salvage laws in New Jersey might be somewhat reasonable---more research needed on this topic...

I also remember something about WW I munitions being dredged up in the area a while back---which might also present a problem...

I wonder if anyone is surreptitiously working in this area...

I would love to dive in your area but my eyes cross when I dive in cold water and I can' t see anything LOL,
Seriously, I bet the Gulf Stream passing by has something to do with the good Viz so go for it and good luck

 

[Au_Dreamers]

Funding.... it all comes down to funding...

I spent about a decade in Delaware from the mid 80's - mid 90's in my "younger years" and was just learning about professional treasure finding. There's plenty of stories true and not so true in the Mid-Atlantic.

As I was learning I believed it would only be a matter of time that someone would come along and apply the methodology of what is/was used in Florida. I just never thought the time frame would be so long!

If "life" hadn't pulled me away from professional treasure hunting for over 12 years I would have given it a go with my operation!

So those spots are just like all the others... one sits around and "hopes" nobody gets to them before "I" can..haha..but once an operation starts into it, wish them safety and piles of treasure !

 

[Jolly Mon]

The area between Assateague Island and Long Beach Island looks to be very ripe. Very ripe, indeed.

The cost of an extensive mag survey in any of those locations would be high, but I wonder if anyone has ever just pinned down the most productive beach areas---and there have been some VERY productive beach areas---and conducted a limited search.

 

[Vikingblood]

There's a a guy who runs a wreck diving rig and has a site with pictures of all he found and it was not all that great of stuff, still cool though. I have only been metal detecting for a couple of years but I have talked to lots of old timers on jersey beaches and while many have found old coins none have reported any coins found below the 1800's with the exception of the Strathmere beach bonanza where lots of coins from the 17th and 18th century were found since the dredger hit a wreck and sprayed them all over the beach. But that beach has been pounded very hard by metal detectors and no one is finding anything anymore. Some guys have found brass and copper nails on beaches all over nj. I tend to think there is still lots of treasure to be found in the bays of new jersey, but the muck at the bottom would make most of it impossible. I follow the dredgers as close as I can and wish I had an excal at the time cause lots of iron was hitting the beach and slope but very little good stuff was tossed onto the beach. I did manage to score a very old gold ring that I posted on another thread here that I found right right behind the dredger but I can't say a hundred percent it was from a wreck. We are also not allowed to hunt the southern end of lbi anymore and that place has lots of history and is begging to be hunted. I too, tend to think new jersey is under hunted and there's gotta be lots of unexplored wrecks.

 

[smokeythecat]

In Delaware, near two (or more known wrecks), I found about 13 English halfpennies or farthings, George II and George III, a silver piece of 8 (cut), several colonial rings, a copper blank, colonial buttons, etc. etc. etc. I do NOT go in the water. Would like to try some of the Jersey beaches but don't really know where to go.

 

[chlsbrns]

The Sindia is in Ocean City. If I remember correctly it sunk about 200 feet from the beach. A salvage company tried to get the goods off the ship by blasting it but screwed up. They blasted the ship and it filled with sand. Years later the army corps of engineers replenished the beach 100 feet past where the ship sunk so basically the ship is under the beach in Ocean City. It's supposed to have gold jade and porcelain stolen from a Buddhist in china.

 

[old man]

The Sindia is in Ocean City. If I remember correctly it sunk about 200 feet from the beach. A salvage company tried to get the goods off the ship by blasting it but screwed up. They blasted the ship and it filled with sand. Years later the army corps of engineers replenished the beach 100 feet past where the ship sunk so basically the ship is under the beach in Ocean City. It's supposed to have gold jade and porcelain stolen from a Buddhist in china.

chlsbrns, There are more cases of treasure being found in NJ. If I remember correctly there is an old newspaper article from around 1948. Apparently a dredge was digging a deeper channel between Sandy Hook and Atlantic Highlands and it propelled Gold Coins up on a small beach. Several young boys found several of the coins and by days end, word had spread and the the beach was mobbed by town folks with shovels. If I remember correctly over 20 coins were found.