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Knipper

Jr. Member
Jan 21, 2005
48
34
Rochester, Minnesota
Detector(s) used
Minelab Explorer SE, Minelab Excalibur II Troy Shadow X-5
Keith (Found you here, too! :) )

As to pinpointing, here are another few tips that might help...

1. In pinpoint mode, don't assume the target is below the CENTER of the coil...it might be, but I recently found out that on my SE, it is under the point where the shaft attaches to the coil, or very slightly in front of it. That makes it about two inches IN BACK OF the center of the coil. I think it might a bit closer to center the deeper the target, but you can eyeball this by just putting a coin on the ground, lifting the coil and estimate where your strongest signal is relative to the position of the coil over the target.

2. Before entering pinpoint mode, move your coil to one side of the target, then put it in pinpoint mode and scan back over the approximate location. If you put in pinpoint mode directly over a target, it might null out the signal. You'll get a signal on either side and a null in the middle. This is because if you're right over it, you might actually be tuning the machine to the target rendering it neutral or sometimes even negative to the circuitry. (Heh, need I say, that when moving the coil slightly to one side first, make sure you're not over ANOTHER target...junk perhaps), or that may make things a bit harder too.

3. The stock coils are a "Double D" configuration. This is very different than other "concentric" coil configurations. Instead of a tapering cone going down into the ground, you have a field that looks more like a two inch wide by twelve inches deep by ten inches long board with rounded bottom corners going into the ground. Yes, the signal will still be stronger in the center (or approximate center...see above) of this field, but if the coin is shallower, you will get a signal along the entire length of this field...harder to pinpoint a shallow target. The pinpoint mode helps center it, but another thing you can do, (since the signal is audible along its entire length) is this: when a signal is detected, pull the coil back towards you while doing a tight back and forth sweep. When the signal disappears, move very slowly forward until you start to hear it again. The target will be right below the FRONT of the coil, where the two halves meet. I still prefer to try to position the target under the approximate center of the coil, as I'm so used to doing it that way. Also, I'd only do this on shallow targets...3" deep or less.
It took me quite a while to get used to double D coils, having learned on concentric ones, where the strongest signal is dead center of the field.

You saw my post on another forum that explained the one way signals you might get and why...remember that, too, when setting your discrimination pattern.

Knipper
 

Ron B

Hero Member
May 11, 2007
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4
Trinidad, Colorado
Keith,
Follow me; deep breaths "then" unwrap the SE from the tree! :)

Man, I feel your pain. I bought the SE three weeks ago and it has proven to be a challenge to say the least. I'm spending more time trying to figure out the machine than actually hunting. Not really but it is frustrating. I have now logged over 100 hours and counting. Pinpointing is a bitch. I've learned to raised my coil after moving north to south-east to west finding appoximate center. Plus, I invested in a SunRay "attached" pinpointer. It too has limitations, one being it will only detect 2" of so in Colorado soil. The manufacturer claims 3 inches; more hype. One plus, (or minus) if the SunRay doesn't sound off on the target I know I'll need to dig deeper.

Hang in there and don't give up.

GRB
 

Hill City Rebel

Jr. Member
Aug 21, 2006
65
1
Vicksburg MS
Detector(s) used
Shadow X5/Fisher 1266/Nautilus DMC-IIB/Tesoro Bandido/NOT ONE SE
Keith, I don't know if you saw my criticism of the SE on another post, but if you haven't, check it out on my blog here

http://treasurehunter.booklocker.com/

I gave up on the darn thing after one trip with it, and traded it in on a new F75 (which hasn't arrived yet). As I've stated before, why buy an SE and spend hours trying to figure it out, and more hours scratching in the dirt trying to find your target, when you can buy another manufacturer's machine and be out digging good signals the day it arrives?

Mine is just one opinion, for what it's worth. Don't mean to antagonize you poor guys who hunt with an SE.

Regards,

HCR
 

medice11

Jr. Member
Mar 10, 2007
32
1
Central, KY
Detector(s) used
minelab explorer xs
I have been using a sunray probe attached to the explorer and it has cut down digginf time considerable. Before I had it I was digging and scanning over and over. Now when I get a signal, I use the probe, reidentify, If I hear the signal I know its close, if not, I dig a plug about 2-3" thick and probe again. Works to identify and pinpoint. works just like the coil only smaller. I would't detect without it after using it this long. Just my opinion. hope it helps. If you make it to Lexington KY, I work with you but I am no expert by no means.
Medic
 

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