$1000 Buried on the Prairies near Cheyenne 1910

[jeff of pa]

San Francisco Bulletin​

Sat, May 21, 1910 ·Page 1

 

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[BigWaveDave]

Oh it’s still gotta be there…

 

[jeff of pa]

Buried on the Prairies ? I Would say, If Not Paper, it is Entirely Possible ! 'The Prairies' does not only Consist of a Quarter Acre Area

 

[jeff of pa]

the smart thing to do was burry it at a immovable landmark.

but was he smart before his mind left on vacation

 

[UnderMiner]

Oh it’s still gotta be there…

Agreed, assuming the money's existence wasn't a delusion of an already insane mind.

 

[Prairie Gazingfox]

I think the money did exist before he buried it. I used to know one 54 year old lady who was a helper in a retirement home somewhere around Chicago back in 2007.
One time she told me" No matter how physically disabled or mentally unhealthy a Patient at the facility is, 2 things they never forget to watch out for: Their money and the opposite gender! ( being cognizant of who is of the opposite sex ).

Agreed, assuming the money's existence wasn't a delusion of an already insane mind.

 

[potsherd_creek]

According to the inflation calculator, $1 in 1907 is a bit over $34 today. If there was some coinage, the executive order to turn in gold was years later in '33 and some silver, not sure how paper would have lasted in the ground. Would a bank record show the denomination or just the amount withdrawn although doubtful one could be found from 118 years ago?
Of coarse, many people of the time would have looked for this although prairies is a large area.

 

[Prairie Gazingfox]

According to the inflation calculator, $1 in 1907 is a bit over $34 today. If there was some coinage, the executive order to turn in gold was years later in '33 and some silver, not sure how paper would have lasted in the ground. Would a bank record show the denomination or just the amount withdrawn although doubtful one could be found from 118 years ago?
Of coarse, many people of the time would have looked for this although prairies is a large area.

The bank for sure did record in what types of currency he was paid off. In old times people at such jobs were very thorough and observant.
But these paper files are long gone, probably Stacked into some public basement...
If he didn't think thick wool or silk or cotton ( not that I know if they are good Insulators to make dollar bills last 100 plus Years ) then probably placed inside a tightly closed metal container.....or glass jar,
Anyway, If he didn't think that would preserve his paper money, he probably asked the bank to give him the money in mostly gold.....

 

[jeff of pa]

agreed ! Where would you Start ?

hoepully he was not dumb enough to use plants or ground conditions.
a detective back then would probably look for evidence of digging , around large plants and landmarks, like obvious mounds and boulders but without a detector, except maybe dowsing. the odds are it's most likely still there.
unless the old guy got a memory boost,

 

[Prairie Gazingfox]

the smart thing to do was burry it at a immovable landmark.

but was he smart before his mind left on vacation

I think if he had buried it next to or in proximity to an immovable stone or mark,
Say closer than 15 feet, 80 % Guarantee people found it by the 1990s at the latest.
Because in 1907 he wasn't cognizant of metal detectors and this 200 coins × $ 5 ( for example ) is 200 × 8.3 grams roughly = 1660 grams.
1660 divided by 28.3 grams = 58.66 OZ.
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He didn't think of placing it inside double or triple container ( for plexiglass came in the 1930s ), so they probably found this significant mass....

 

[jeff of pa]

The article is From 1910, Don't forget to Add
lack of Knowledge of the Buriel into the Mix.

I Can't say I'm the First to find the Article, But may be one of only a few who would act on it if possible

so I would Disagree with you 1990's supposition

Unless it made it into the Treasure Books/Magazines of course

 

[Prairie Gazingfox]

The article is From 1910, Don't forget to Add
lack of Knowledge of the Buriel into the Mix.

I Can't say I'm the First to find the Article, But may be one of only a few who would act on it if possible

so I would Disagree with you 1990's supposition

Unless it made it into the Treasure Books/Magazines of course

For 18 months I was detecting with a Garret Ace 400 and with a pendulum. They corroborated the Epicenters for each others scanning abilities. I would find that small piece/ several pieces of old discarded alloy that would serve as the antenna( s) drawing earth signals upwards.... or the prevalent Epicenter due to conglomeration of man- made factors plus Nature',s Local characteristics in a specific subsection of a forest or wilderness I went to...
Then I sold the Garret ( as they are made to sell, not to find truly valuable things such as many coins Stacked or piled together within a compact container / Insulative material.. especially when you have cluttered environment around the Assumed resting place of the cache.
Then I continued solely with the Pendulum.
* I have vast pendulum practical research prepared months ago but I haven't published it here yet because I wouldn't have time to respond to people questions.....

So the Pendulum can eliminate areas much faster than a detector.
- Both the Detectors as well as pendulum ( if you do not put conditional instructions to the Pendulum exactly what kind of Signals to seek and what to ignore before you even swing it the first time in an unknown area )
> so they both are programmed to go for the Dominant signals under the feet of the operator. Unfortunately in most states ( I think ) the dominant Au, Ag, Sn -( Tin), Zinc, Molybdenum, Nickel, Tungsten and Countless others are part of a mutually PHYSICALLY entwined network of underground mineralized clusters/ ores.
So with a $ 700 detector, if you have a strong Nobles plus gray Color metals Emanation just 2.5 feet sideways from a very small cache that is deeper than say 20 inches and is in 2 thick "non-metallic "Insulative ( let alone triple Insulation ) materials, you are bound with 98 % certainty to miss Registering the Really valuable thing. Because the Earth’s network of rocks and super enriched soil is everywhere under our feet.

Here are pictures of what 12 mm I think it is iron rod I encountered yesterday. It is vertically showing abput 6 Inches above the ground. The oval looking tree on left that has some moss resembles a mini street wood pole! Well, it is not a pole,never Was! And there were never electric poles right at the edge of this very old abandoned field....
It Is a rotting tree. He had placed it right next to the iron rod so it appears that the rod is/ was going right through the " old pole" edge.
Well, that can't have been the case, as the rod goes about 12 Inches into the ground!
And only 6 Inches above ground.
I had to apply almost moderate strenght to slide it out of the soil which a minute later made me realize that the chances that it was I nserted by someone who was SEARCHING and used it to mark his own Analyses , these chances are getting smaller....
It took some effort to slide it out,( the soil was tight around it ) so I think it was Inserted rather by whoever was hiding something, not a hunter!
Still not guaranteed. But it must have been between 20 and 45 years ago. Judging by the condition of the rod.

Here are the pics....
There are 1 semi-circle of moss covered stones and 1 or 2 bigger stones next to the semi-circle. I actually think that he used as a marker stones ( these same ) that were already in place....buy am not quite sure. There are other rocks and stones within 15 or 20 yards radius, some have moss, others almost none....
Chicagoland far NW suburbs.

 

[DizzyDigger]

A person could spend a lifetime swinging a coil over Wyoming prairie..and not cover all of it. Be sure to pack your woolies, too.

 

[robertk]

Here are pictures of what 12 mm I think it is iron rod I encountered yesterday.

It looks like a piece of rebar. I've seen those used as property survey markers, usually just like yours, driven down with about 6" showing, described on the deed as "an iron pin". You might want to put it back.

 

[Prairie Gazingfox]

It looks like a piece of rebar. I've seen those used as property survey markers, usually just like yours, driven down with about 6" showing, described on the deed as "an iron pin". You might want to put it back.

I did put it back in but it seemed deliberately hidden with this oval segment of fallen tree right next to it.
- I would Disagree it is any property marker because it is 5 or 6 yards down from the edge of the field, onto the slope, within the forest, and the entire land is a forest preserve,including the forest since at least the 1960s if not the 1930s.
There are no other markers like this one.
The actual Gold Epicenter is exactly 6 feet to the left on the same trajectory ,just maybe several inches lower. But there is a 10 inch tree only 3 or 4 feet from the Epicenter and that's why I chose not to dig..... The tree must have started growing 10 or 15 years after he put stuff there.....

I am not totally neglecting your idea of it being a property marker but this land was turned Into state property much earlier. This iron rod would be even more porous if it is from the time this was still private property. After all it's just black steel. Not galvanized or any with chrome Inside....

 

[Prairie Gazingfox]

agreed ! Where would you Start ?View attachment 2206224
hoepully he was not dumb enough to use plants or ground conditions.
a detective back then would probably look for evidence of digging , around large plants and landmarks, like obvious mounds and boulders but without a detector, except maybe dowsing. the odds are it's most likely still there.
unless the old guy got a memory boost,

From replica measurements with my pendulum ( where I keep it at first simple and I decide how much copper pipes ( cut into 2.5 to 3 inch pieces ) to place inside an 3.5 by 3.5 inch iron box, walls thick only about 1 mm,
Alongside say 60 to 80 grams Silver I put in there right next to the copper pipe segments,
The copper pipes would vary from 150 grams all the way up to 300 grams.in a different experiment....

I have seen it many times,
1) on top of the backyard grass
Without the mini iron box,
The Contents Placed on the grass
The Ag signal would be 75 to 80 mm.

These are not actual swing lenghts . Because you would have to put a linear measure 4 or 5 inches under your pendulum , and you would have to be squating down,
So 75 mm in reality is 7.5 cm × 3.5. You will realize. Maybe even × 4 or more.....

2)The same contents placed inside the mini iron box would give you Silver swing of only about 50 mm. Because iron and silver do mutually Interact. ( about 20 % to 30 % more so than iron and Gold) The iron box ( with the help of the labdmasses underneath )
** they contain a lot of iron plus gray Color metals that draw away from the Silver/ copper contents more so than they magnify the contents emanation...

Mutual diminishment effect you have here ( opposite of mutual antenna reinforcement effect )
So because the 3.5 inch square iron box is Tightly closed and on top of the Iron rich ( 5 or 6 % of earth's crust ) soil,
The signal of Ag goes down from 75 or 80 mm down about 1/3 to 50 mm.
3) Then If you dig a hole with a shovel or manual auger that's between 9 inches and 15 inches, place the iron box and cover it with soil, compression it with you'd feel, wait 20 minutes, the Ag signal would decline further from 50 mm to anywhere fro. 30 to 40 mm only.
4) you may choose to simply ,instead of digging a hole. Cover the iron box that is sitting on the surface with a good size steel shovel by placing the shovel flat on top of the iron box. And maybe put 1 or 2 concrete patio bricks 1 foot next to the whole thing.
You will still have the Ag signal decline to about say 35 mm.
From Initial 75 mm down to 35 mm, that is more than Double Diminishment/ suppression effect!

If you repeat the whole thing with 150 grams copper pipes but put whatever amount of gold you have inside next or on too of them INSTEAD of Silver, ( 30 grams should be enough. In fact if you KNOW there is gold inside ( I am not gonna get into that alteration of thinking right now), about 5 to 10 grams of Gold are enough for mutual reinforcement effect.

So then Measure iron box with contents on top of grass, YOU will get from 75 to about 55 mm or just a bit more FOR GOLD signal!!!
5) then bury the box with Copper and gold 15 inches down , you will get about 40 mm for Gold! Maximum of 50 mm but that is if he placed NO wide/ heavy stone on top of the box Prior to burying it with soil and whatever else. Plus you might still get the 50 mm for Gold emanation Only If he chose a very thin food can or perhaps Aluminium can ( that last one I have not tested ).
But in ether case, you will get just a little stronger signal for Gold than for Silver. Namely, 5 to 10 mm Discrepancy for Gold ( in favor of Gold signal ) is Realistic when you bury both Silver and Gold inside the same container AND inside the same compartment within the container.
In reality 5 or 10 mm is to be × multiplied by about 4 Times for actual lenght of swing.
That is DUE to the fact that by the" time" the Silver signal travels vertically up to your Pendulum Above ground, a perhaps 10 to 25 % of The Silver signal is smitten and absorbed by whatever stones and landmasses are placed on top of the container FOR the Abundance of Natural Silver to Gold Ratio within these landmassrs is about 11 to 20 times. There is on average 11 to 20 times Silver in the ground than Gold!
Silver always reacts with its Identical part - which is Silver, just like Mercury pulls towards itself Mercury.
Its an Unstoppable process because the soil above the container hIdden down there 50 to 150 years ago is compressed enough and in perfect contact with the soil within the Space " Quadrants" that the entire section of the forest/ field you are in is Composed of.
So in my theoretical here Assumption , you will always get slightly more powerful signal for Gold than for Silver regardless of the fact that Silver had electroconductivity around 63 units while Gold has about 45.2.
- For Significant amounts of treasure like more than 600 grams,I have no practical assumption as I have NOT TESTED such a Replica Case......
But I am sure, there is a point in terms of Amount buried where the Silver signal will become EQUAL to the gold signal.... it is am amount where The landmassrs on top and around the container WOULD NOT be powerful enough to Diminish the Silver signal to make it Weaker than the Gold signal.....

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continuing the paragraph from earlier train of thought:

Even with no Silver Inside next to the other 2 metals, you will still get Silver signal.
It could be due to Ag impurities within the iron box itself, or it could be Ag signal from the soil itself permeating through the iron box gaps or through its walls if it is just a very thin food can....or a container that was Never totally tightly closed/ sealed for whatever human error reason....
Or if it used to be a 1.2 mm thick or more iron or food box buried in 1920s but has been disintegrating slightly underground in the last 9 or 10 decades.

> As long as you have silver or gold or BOTH inside a sturdy iron or even 18- 10 stainless steel box, underground this Source of sign will be losing anywhere from 25 up to 70 % of its Otherwise ( on top of grass ) Undiluted emanation.

And if he put a bunch of more neutral ( like gravel ) stones on top of his iron box he buried, the Signal would be getting more and more widespread/ stolen by the immediately surrounding landmasses.

6) With totally natural deposits Epicenters ( whereever the Pendulum takes you without you even putting hardly any thought into EXACTLY what you ask it for to show you direction of, ( as king ad you have a very high purity sample of it in your other hand ),
The Gold,Silver, zinc, Nickel, Molybdenum signals and oftentimes Sn signal that prevail say 3.5 yards in from of you but about 20 degrees to the Left or Right,
The swings for each of them woukd be right about 65 to 80 mm.

It is As if you have a gold coin in a very shallow place of say 5 inches.

That's is where the problems ( and Solutions) for the operator begin!

BUT you can assume that if anywhere in the ground ( you see maybe that point is exactly 8 feet from an immovable big stone and in a very convincing directiion from it )
IF you are getting FOR EXAMPLE Au 65 mm- Ag 55 mm- Sn 40 mm- Aluminium 30 mm
For that Specific Spot.

Instead of Au 70- Ag 70 - Sn 70 mm- Aluminium 70 ( or 60 ),
You might have either a conglomeration of Earth layers/ darker clay deeper/ NATURAL factors
- Or you might have a piece of an old Zinc coated steel ir some other alloy object covered by a fragment of concrete
( concrete would steal PART of the Aluminium Signal that naturally goes TRANSIT through this piece of small Alloy, way more than it would steal the Silver signal......out if that piece of Alloy. It is probably old and it might have say 1/4 of a percent Silver as an integral Part of it.
Or it might only have less than 0.05 % silver. It woukd still cause the Pendulum to detect maybe the maximum possible Ag signal from it. Or slightly less. Say 50 mm.
- 50 to 55 mm Silver signal is very typical of a 10 inch very old barbed wire at 6 to 10 inches in the ground. The more segments of Old barbed wire, the More BEOADLY spread put under the soil, THE SLIGHTLY WEAKER the Ag signal would be registered by the Pendulum!
** The shorter the old barbed wire say only 4 inches long plus the more tiny space it was taking under the soil, THE GREATER the Silver signal would be!
So a very short barbed wire ( and almost Nothing else next to it such as 1 or 2 pieces of old colored glass or ceramic brick fragment ) Nothing there but the wire,
The more likely you are to get a full blown Au 75- Ag 75 ( or 80 )- Sn 70- Aluminium 70 signal.
This way You should know better IT IS NOT COINS IN RELATIVELY THIN walled Amorphous structure container such as Glass! You should be realistic!

But ,in Short now, the More of a Middle of Middle or Lower of Middle ( 40 to 55 mm ) range you are getting for Gold or Silver and only about 25 mm to 35 mm you are getting for a high temperature elements Such as Molybdenum and Tungsten, the More Likely you might have something buried AT THE SPOT YOU ARE VISUALLY SCRUTINIZING.....

- A single Fist-size greenish bluish mineral ( rock ) about 16 to 18 inches deep,
And no other such size ( and such type of rocks By themselves Anywhere 4 to say 8 yards around, would almost never give you Gold signal LESS than 65 mm ( × 4 remember to get actual swing lenght ) and Almost never Give you LESS THAN or more Than 50 to 55 mm for Silver.
This is nice to know BECAUSE the only such or similar combination that would be an Actual treasure would be either in a glass jar or MAYBE very thin plastic container!
And It would be NOT COVERED through Pro- active planning by the owner with any concrete fragments ,Forest stones or other camouflaging material.

So it woukd be pretty much out of the question for yielding a presence of coins.

I will stop here for now.
The Permutations for Au- Ag- Tungsten/ Aluminium signals are MANY,
Unpredictable oftentimes, but the Tendencies of what they mean given what range within "the Scale" of the Pendulum swinging diapazone they hold, Establishes only 2 or 3 General tendencies of Behavior of what is underground. They are not hard to follow.....

Such treasure, the metal detectors most likely already picked up ( the Amorphous container type like glass ) before you walked through that place.....

Also other elements can be used by knowing their abundance in Earth, hardness scale, common occurence and your assumption of what kind of container it might be under your feet.

- As for Electroconductivity in pure state, it almost Doesn't matter because down the underground network of ores, ALL elements are Interconnected!

But typically a very short or let's just say Short Swing for Tungsten or Vanadium or Sn - tin ( unless you have it as part of the contents or container under your feet ) would mean that you are dealing with either domestic or Industrial waste in more than 2 or 3 pieces bundled together,
Or are dealing with a Metal or alloy that is Physically separated from the landmassrs around you....and above all from its own immediate surroundings.
For Natural ( physically Interconnected) ores underground ( like they are in most places ) would exhibit same Long swings no matter that Au has electroconductivity of 45.2 I think it was and Platinum or Tin and Iron have only around between 9 and 10.
Lead, with even weaker electroconductivity would display same strong 70 to 75 mm signal .
But I do not use Lead any more as there is too much of it in the ground and also as part of many man- made objects, older as well as not so old.

In this picture, it's a 1mm thick walls container
- You can put the 150 gr Copper pipes in a 1.8 mm thick iron box PLUS Use a bigger Iron box! If you think somebody 120 years ago selected a 1.8 mm thick box! The larger and sturdier the Box, the weaker the Copper,Gold, Silver signals are going to be to the detector or Pendulum up their where there is fresh air and Sunlight!
Below the surface, where there is no sunlight and Bank Colorful Logos above bank entrances, visible from 300 feet and more, it's Pure Magic! That magic to Triangulate, you need to know the formulas! To know the formulas, you need to have done at least 5 or 6 replicas! Many of them with No presence of noble elements.....so you know how to contrast the formulas .
- Then Add
For your replica experiment 50 gr of Gold or instead of gold 50 to 150 grams of Silver.
Then put it in the ground about 18 inches deep. Even 14 inches is usually enough and will produce the same lenghts of swing!
Then after you measure the lenghts of Swing for each element separately
Starting with Au,Cu Ag
Proceed with Various gray Color elements I mentioned several paragraps earlier.
Then you record the Discrepancies of lenghts of Swing for Au, Ag, plus at least 4 gray Color elements , then if you encounter in the outdoors, in a nature ,away from open dump sites, the same formula with the same discrepancies ,You will have money!
But you start with this type of basic arrangement as seen in the picture.
This is just Benign Iron box ( black steep) but it is painted! Paint contains all kinds of metals,including Platinum and Silver believe it or not and possibly 6 or 7 gray Color elements .Then you might miss the box,especially if IT IS NOT DOO DEEP. But if it is old and deep underneath, you will not miss it. It might just give you 10 mm longer swing for Zn and Nickel and MAYBE Tin ( Sn ) but not for Molybdenum! Nobody knows yet....

 

[tamrock]

agreed ! Where would you Start ?View attachment 2206224
hoepully he was not dumb enough to use plants or ground conditions.
a detective back then would probably look for evidence of digging , around large plants and landmarks, like obvious mounds and boulders but without a detector, except maybe dowsing. the odds are it's most likely still there.
unless the old guy got a memory boost,

Right, That's what I was thinking. I couldn't tell you how many miles I've driven up and down I25 in Wyoming heading to Montana. There are a few bank and stage couch robbery lost or hidden loot stories in Wyoming. I would think about them when I'd be driving along that vast openness and where might someone stash a treasure out in it. Maybe the one positive thing about it would be it's not gonna be like a treasure hidden where modern development has taken place and any buried treasure is now under a modern concrete highway or parking lot.