1600s mystery objects. Gun part and key??

[thebmasur]

I found these items in a mid 1600s era Native American location. I know they are very old but I have no clue what they are. The one sort of looks like a tiny knife blade maybe some sort of tool or gun part? The other looks a lot like a key but it doesn't have a bit. It does taper on the end though. Any suggestions would be appreciated!! Thank you,

-Brandon


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[Spats]

Half of a pair of scissors? Is there a rusted over hole in it?

 

[thebmasur]

Half of a pair of scissors? Is there a rusted over hole in it?

There might be a hole but I don't think so because it's so rusted. It's also quite small maybe 2" long total


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[namxat]

The key is imho a clock winder. I would say 18th century

Greets Namxat

 

[thebmasur]

The key is imho a clock winder. I would say 18th century

Greets Namxat

That was one of my thoughts. The ones I've seen are usually much fancier and have holes on the bottom. It's seems highly likely though.


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[namxat]

Well, this is obviously a pre-industrial artifact -> handmade. The real early ones I have encountered are two-pronged (17th century to early 18th century)
This restricts it to 18th century maybe early 19th century. That then prong is not hollowed is also a sign of age at least for me.

Look here, the UK database has quite some crude examples on this page:

https://finds.org.uk/database/search/results/q/winding+key/page/5

 

[HuntinDog]

Small Hitch pin and half of a pair of scissors

Similar to these

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Is the shaft of the pin round, rectangular or square?

 

[thebmasur]

Is the shaft of the pin round, rectangular or square?

The shaft is round the end is rectangular


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[DownNDirty]

Definitely part of a pair of scissors

 

[thebmasur]

One thought I had on the "key" was possibly a flint screw from musket. Looks a lot like this one


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[Charlie P. (NY)]

They are notorious for having screw threads on the shank. It would also be attracted to a magnet.

 

[thebmasur]

They are notorious for having screw threads on the shank. It would also be attracted to a magnet.

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Yeah I figured it would have threads. Looks awful similar though!


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[DCMatt]

Possibly a thumb piece for a garden gate or cabinet latch and a locking pin for a latch.

 

[DCMatt]