1652 Noe 1 Pine Tree. Authentic or fake?

[3LeggedEarl]

Today I was helping my grandmother clean out her house as she moves into an assisted living place. In a box that belonged to my grandfather (died 15 years ago) were a number of old coins. Along with the coins was this coin, that as you can see, had been made into a necklace. From the research I've done online today it appears to be an Noe 1 Pine Tree. So the big question is of course....is it real or fake? I know the real deal is extremely rare. I thought I would post it here for an opinion before taking it to be looked at by someone. Only "test" I've done is that it is not magnetic.

Thanks!

 

[jewelerguy]

looks like it has the same die break between the 1 and 6 as known originals. can't imagine why anyone would solder on a real one unless they didn't know what it was

 

[l.cutler]

The Noe 1 is the most commonly copied variety. Can you post a picture of the edge?

 

[flyadive]

Can you post precise measurements? Weight and composition?

 

[Rhode Hog]

I have seen a small number of these coins and the edges are to thin to solder a loop onto like in your photo.Your coin looks like the edge was flattened or is a cast copy,lets wait for more info hope it's real

 

[mcb66]

It does look cast. Getting the weight is probably the first thing to do.

 

[3LeggedEarl]

I have seen a small number of these coins and the edges are to thin to solder a loop onto like in your photo.Your coin looks like the edge was flattened or is a cast copy,lets wait for more info hope it's real

Here are some pics of the edges. I can get some measurements. Weight right now will be distorted by the chain. Let me know what you think based upon these edges.

 

[flyadive]

Guessing on your finger size in the photo, look like 27-28 mm Dia . The first Pine tree coins were struck on the same size planchets as the oak tree pieces. They were narrower and thicker to conform to English style coins.

 

[l.cutler]

Absolutely a fake, a genuine coin is almost paper thin.

 

[gordonquixote]

Too thick and cast copy.

 

[3LeggedEarl]

Too thick and cast copy.

Thanks for the prompt and helpful diagnosis. Not what I was hoping for, but it was I was expecting.