1652 pine tree shilling

[Numismatics4life]

I can't seem to figure out if this is authentic would someone be able to help me?
here is the coin

 

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[Gaspipe]

Looks like a fake

 

[ARC]

Dog hair for size reference... heh j/k

 

[Numismatics4life]

actually I have checked over the coin a good amount of times and I could not find the word "copy" anywhere on the coin. that was actually the first thing I checked for.

 

[BigWaveDave]

Looks kinda wonkey to me....compare it to Ahab's, and a few others that have been found here on Tnet,.. and thanks for joining our site....good luck.

 

[Numismatics4life]

Honestly that would be very helpful to hear what they have to say alongside what has already been stated.

 

[Ahab8]

Looks like a copy of the NOE 1. Hard to tell from the pics but for one the color looks very strange. It may just be the pic. You will hear from a couple of the coin experts on here and get your answers. Here is one that I dug. Is the color of yours kind of goldish or is it more like this?


Can you tell us how you came by this coin? Just curious if it was dug or passed down or what not?

 

[dirtlooter]

clueless... that would be me but there are those who know, they know a lot

 

[WildWildBill]

Any valuable/rare coins are often copied and sold as souvenirs or reproduced to sell and fool the public. I believe yours might not be real. If it looks to good to be true, it probably is. If it was once sold as a souvenir it would have COPY stamped into it. The best way to find out if it is a fake is check the material that it should be and also the weight. It just looks too perfect to me. I'm not an expert, but I'm learning to be one. How did you obtain this mystery coin?

 

[testing123]

not an expert, but the lettering looks off, as well as the color

 

[Ahab8]

It should be 29.5 mm and weigh 4.3 grams

 

[ARC]

I don't know Ahab... that looks pretty darn good to me.
What do you think ?
You def have looked at way more of em than I have.

 

[Ahab8]

Well besides the odd color there's a couple other things that look off. The only variety that it seems to match is the Large Planchet NOE 1. The second S doesn't look right and there shod only be 2 pellets between IN and MASATHVSETS
Hopefully Don or IP will chime in. They've been at this a lot longer than me. Odd that it doesn't have the copy designation

 

[ARC]

you know what is killing me...
the crack...
tis hard to pull off in a fake and still look right.
but can be done.

If this is a real coin... wow.

 

[Ahab8]

Ok I retract my statement about the pellets. That's just wear on the example in my book. It is hard to imagine making a copy with that crack.

 

[Argentium]

Is it just the photograph or has it been plated ? In particular the back ground areas on the date side of the piece appear way lighter
than the raised devises - obviously you'll want some experts to have a look -( weigh it and size it for us !!!)

 

[Ahab8]

Is it just the photograph or has it been plated ? In particular the back ground areas on the date side of the piece appear way lighter
than the raised devises - obviously you'll want some ral experts to have a look -( weigh it and size it for us !!!)

Yeah it's got a very odd look to it. Not sure if it's just the lighting or what. But it looks strange

 

[UnderMiner]

I'll take it even if it turns out to be fake

 

[ARC]

Numismatics4life
you still with us ?
with your "TN name" I cannot help the thought crossing my mind that you are a numismatic with an actual Pine that just wants to show it off and sit back and see how we act.
The size and weight can help verify...
and I hope you are legit with this.

 

[ARC]

Just blew up the pics and got in on it...
If it is a copy... tis is one heck of a good one.
awaiting size and weight.
What say you Ahab ?