1805 Draped Bust Dime! (**With Video**)

[KYshooter]

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Well, I went back to my old hotel site this afternoon. That site has given me five indians, a couple of wheaties, and one barber dime. My daughter has also dug an indian, a couple of wheats, and a three-cent piece.

This site is sort of "low yield - high quality," if you know what I mean. Not many targets, but everything is guaranteed to be old ... since the place burned down in 1925.

Anyhow ... I have a confession to make. On the way to the site I prayed. Actually, a lot of you know that I am a pastor, so I'm no stanger to prayer. But on this particular day, I prayed very specifically, "Lord, please let me find something absolutely incredible today."

And the Lord sure does move in mysterious ways ...

I had been digging for about a half hour on the hill descending from the back of the hotel site. I hit a nice strong 76 signal on my MXT, and it said it was only 2 inches deep, so I shoveled over a large plug and began to break it up with my fingers. My heart hit my throat when I saw blackened (i.e. OLD) silver ... and the right-facing bust of a woman. I rinsed with a little water and saw the date ... 1805.

I just about poooed me overalls ...

I had dug that unbelievable find! An 1805 Draped Bust dime. It is oversized compared to modern dimes (19mm) and razor thin. Unfortunately, the back looks like it was scratched by something long ago ... perhaps a plow. But enough talk! Here are the pictures!!




Since the date shows and the outline of the bust is clear, it graces as a "Good," which the Red Book showed as a $475 coin in my 2009 version ... I'm guessing it's a $500 coin today.

Boo-yah!

About 3-5 feet away I dug a perfect musket ball drop. I'll be getting it measured with the calipers tomorrow.

I also dug a really nice flat button with shank attached. It treads, "Best Quality London."


I also dug a really rough 1900 Indian Head, an old kid's play spur, and what appears to me to be a piece from an old colonial buckle.

Here's a pic of the whole pouch ...


Thanks for looking! I shot video, but it will take me a while to edit and upload. Should be ready for viewing by tomorrow morning. I'll post a link to my channel.

Blessings to all.

 

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[Chicago Ron]

Great find and video Shooter! Congrats on the coin and banner!

 

[KRAZYHORSES]

nice find!!

 

[KYshooter]

Great find and video Shooter! Congrats on the coin and banner!

Many thanks to everyone for the kind words and for getting my lowly little dime on that banner.

 

[Don in SJ]

That is one fine coin shooter, i think i envy your relationship with your daughter more
than the coin. My daughter has never been interested in detecting except for when she
was real little. I checked Breens and couldn't find anything on the bell looking thing.
I wouldn't be that quick to write it off, I suggest you get in touch with the Bust half
nut club, although they specialize in half dollars i bet they could put you in touch with
a real expert on your dime. Congratulations on the Banner.

Like i said, i wouldn't be that quick to write that flaw off. See the below story.

http://www.pdxcoinclub.org/convention2005/bustHalf.html - 8k - Cached

I sent them a note, but haven't heard anything in return. If anyone knows of any "experts" out there who can help me fill in the blanks on this dime, I would definintely appreciate it.

The article referenced in the above link is talking about a newly discovered variety, big difference, your coin is not a new variety, it is one with planchet damage of some type.

Here is an excerpt from the NGC website: These same problems are often seen with the Draped Bust/Heraldic Eagle dimes of 1798-1807, and they are further aggravated by poor strikes and flawed planchets. The quality of U. S. coins in general declined during the first few years of the 19th Century, and the most commonly seen dates of 1805 and 1807 are also among the poorest made of Draped Bust dimes.

For a complete review of the article here is the link: http://www.ngccoin.com/coin-grading-guide/grading-draped-bust-dimes.aspx

Don

 

[KYshooter]

That is one fine coin shooter, i think i envy your relationship with your daughter more
than the coin. My daughter has never been interested in detecting except for when she
was real little. I checked Breens and couldn't find anything on the bell looking thing.
I wouldn't be that quick to write it off, I suggest you get in touch with the Bust half
nut club, although they specialize in half dollars i bet they could put you in touch with
a real expert on your dime. Congratulations on the Banner.

Like i said, i wouldn't be that quick to write that flaw off. See the below story.

http://www.pdxcoinclub.org/convention2005/bustHalf.html - 8k - Cached

I sent them a note, but haven't heard anything in return. If anyone knows of any "experts" out there who can help me fill in the blanks on this dime, I would definintely appreciate it.

The article referenced in the above link is talking about a newly discovered variety, big difference, your coin is not a new variety, it is one with planchet damage of some type.

Here is an excerpt from the NGC website: These same problems are often seen with the Draped Bust/Heraldic Eagle dimes of 1798-1807, and they are further aggravated by poor strikes and flawed planchets. The quality of U. S. coins in general declined during the first few years of the 19th Century, and the most commonly seen dates of 1805 and 1807 are also among the poorest made of Draped Bust dimes.

For a complete review of the article here is the link: http://www.ngccoin.com/coin-grading-guide/grading-draped-bust-dimes.aspx

Don

Thanks for the link, Don. I actually think that the bell-shaped spot is an impression in the coin from damage early in its "life." If you look at the reverse, you can see the impression, and the fact that it holds some signinficant detail compared to the rest of the coin reverse.

 

[KYshooter]

Good to see "the Net" back up! I was getting worried ... again ...

 

[Bugsterx2]

Very neat coin! Congrats on the banner find. I know you must feel more satisfied having made this find with your Daughter by your side!! Good memories for sure.

 

[fir469]

Grats on the banner!! That dime def belongs there! Early US silver is super super rare! Can't wait for my first!! Oldest so far is 1841. I'd fall over seeing that!

 

[KYshooter]

Grats on the banner!! That dime def belongs there! Early US silver is super super rare! Can't wait for my first!! Oldest so far is 1841. I'd fall over seeing that!

I would actually like something in the capped or seated series! I've never found either one.
Here's to diggin' the old stuff!

 

[HISPAN]

Nice Coin ...congrats for the banner !

 

[pistol perfect]

AMAZING!!!

 

[KYshooter]

Very neat coin! Congrats on the banner find. I know you must feel more satisfied having made this find with your Daughter by your side!! Good memories for sure.

Actually, she hasn't been hunting with me a lot lately.
Lame excuse about it being "too cold." Waaa, waaa, waaa ...

 

[MOOSE MAN]

Hey shooter,

That is beautiful........ Thank you for sharing and awesome footage of the old site. This gets my heart pumpin as I have done some home work on properties not far from home and they turn out to be trading posts from early to mid to late 1800's.

Sweet finds,
Moose Man

 

[ReidMan]

The pin piece is an 18th century stock buckle used to hold the folded linen worn around the neck under the shirt collar. Nice find.

 

[KYshooter]

The pin piece is an 18th century stock buckle used to hold the folded linen worn around the neck under the shirt collar. Nice find.

Holy smokes!! Thanks, man! I just looked it up ... and you're right! I had no clue.

I found that piece while walking the same swining line on which I found the flat button, musket ball, and draped bust. So, it all fits together into an early 1800's picture, doesn't it?!!

Too cool. I really appreciate your expertise, and how you helped me clear up that little mystery. Gracias.