🥇 BANNER 1812 WAR 24 POUNDER CANNONBALL FILLED WITH MUSKET BALLS

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I got a really big hit in about 30ft of water. It took me about 1/2 to dig it out of the clay. When I started cleaning it I found the fuse!! Needless to say I kept it well soaked while I fulled the fuse out and while I was rinsing all the powder out of it I noticed it was full off musket balls. Also pictured is an oak gun powder barrel top with Regimental markings.
 

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Awesome finds! You find some great stuff diving!
 

I have to vote banner on that due to the age, the depth you found it, and the barrel top. An amazing find! Am I correct in assuming you found the barrel top close by? If so, then this absolutely is a banner find - in my humble opinion.
 

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Thats new and different!
Those are the kinds of finds land hunting will probably never produce, hats off to you on some super recoveries !
 

Awesome recoveries! Love seeing your finds - keep them coming.
 

Now that is nice; great job
 

Wow beautiful find. A cannonball is on my wish list. I drooled a bit when I saw this.
 

Absolutely amazing! VERY cool !! :icon_thumleft:

Steve
 

Cool find !!! That thing would have done some damage.
 

God I love it? What a treasure chest you are into. You are going to be able to open a one of a kind museum and charge people to come and see your stuff. I guarantee that you have lots of people eating their hearts out. Way to go, keep posting please.
 

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Holly molly now that's a Banner Ball for sure. vote is going in.
ZDD
 

The wood is very cool too.
 

The cannonball is cool, but actually I like the powder barrel lid even more. I'll bet it's a much rarer find and definitely VERY cool!
 

I got a PM about this find, asking for comment. It's a rare find, because relatively few of this type of lead-balls-inside explosive "antipersonnel" cannonball used a wooden fuzeplug. This antipersonnel shell's rather small explosive charge tended to merely spit the wooden plug out of the ball, which released the blast pressure out of the fuzehole instead of exploding the ball. That problem was cured later in the 1800s by the development of a screw-in METAL fuzeplug, because it gripped the fuzehole much more tightly that the old simple "push-in" wooden fuzeplugs.

CanDiver, no offense intended, but this explosive cannonball filled with musketballs cannot be from the Revolutionary War, because it wasn't invented until after the end of that war. It was invented by a British artillery Lieutenant named Henry Shrapnel. It was first adopted for service in 1803, by the British artillery, and in the following decade was copied by other nations.
Shrapnel shell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 20th-Century term "shrapnel" for artillery shell fragments is derived from Lt. Shrapnel's invention, although the term originally meant that specific type of artillery antipersonnel shell, not the fragments of an explosive shell's iron body.
 

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After reading CBG response to this.. I am assuming more War Of 1812 ??
 

Very Nice 24lb Case! Very cool display piece there
im still looking for a 24!
 

Great finds! I bet that was fun to lift 30 feet from the bottom. The wooden barrell lid is really a neat find!
 

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> After reading CBG response to this.. I am assuming more War Of 1812 ??

Yes... being found in the US (more specifically, one of the Great Lakes), CanDiver's wooden-fuzed specimen can only be from the War-Of-1812 era. As I mentioned in my previous reply, the earliest version (first adopted for service in 1803, by the British) had a wooden fuzeplug. It was superceded by a metal-fuzed version in the 1840s, and further improved (in Britain) by their Boxer timefuze in 1852.

By the time of the American Civil War, the US artillery service was using the Bormann timefuze (which, for anybody who doesn't already know, is a screw-in metal fuze) for this type of explosive cannonball. The Confederates manufactured some which used a wooden fuzeplug, but of course none of those would be found in the Great Lakes.
 

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