✅ SOLVED 1830 brass plate-possible permit or license?

[DownNDirty]

Found today in central South Carolina. It measures 1.50 inches wide by 1.53 inches tall. Were permits issued to carriages or wagons in the 1800s? I Googled this and found nada.

 

[DownNDirty]

It's hard to see in the picture but there is a partial "7C" stamped on the bottom edge.

 

[Stef45]

I'm trying to figure this one out. First thought was maybe railroad. Not seeing anything with those initials. Looking for Toll roads and Canals now.

 

[Stef45]

Maybe a small local rail road or a wagon road that came off of the great wagon road. Spitballin

 

[DownNDirty]

Maybe a small local rail road or a wagon road that came off of the great wagon road. Spitballin

With a date of 1830 it predates the railroad. However I found it right next to a road; I was thinking that it fell off of some type of vehicle traveling down the road-maybe a carriage or wagon or even a stage coach.

 

[Spats]

You have the top of the stock portion of a broken Prussian Potsdam butt plate from the Prussian 24th Regiment (L.W.R.) . These were considered obsolete by the Prussian army and were imported by the Union army before and during the Civil War and also by the Confederacy. This one was found in Mississippi.

 

[Spats]

If you Google Potsdam Butt plate, you can see several pictures of plates on muskets. There are also detailed explanations of the meaning of all the numbers and letters stamped into the butt plates.

 

[CRUSADER]

I'm trying to figure this one out. First thought was maybe railroad. Not seeing anything with those initials. Looking for Toll roads and Canals now.

Me too. But I think the above has nailed it.

 

[DownNDirty]

You have the top of the stock portion of a broken Prussian Potsdam butt plate from the Prussian 24th Regiment (L.W.R.) . These were considered obsolete by the Prussian army and were imported by the Union army before and during the Civil War and also by the Confederacy. This one was found in Mississippi.

Thank you very much for this id; without it I would have never guessed that this was a butt plate.

 

[namxat]

That is a find of high historic relevance imho.

As far as my knowledge goes 24 L.W.R. translates to 24th Landwehrregiment. Landwehr was the reserve or second-line formation of Prussia. Therefore the musket (an M/1809, last flint musket of Prussia btw) was an older hand-me-down form the active units.

It is highly likley that it was fired in the Napoleonic wars, was carried on a weary but prooud shoulder through Paris and maybe was even there on as the Prussian went into the Battle of Waterloo.

Believing that this belongs to an firearm that was in two conflicts that changed the world (Napoleonic and Civil war), I vote Banner!

 

[DownNDirty]

That is a find of high historic relevance imho.

As far as my knowledge goes 24 L.W.R. translates to 24th Landwehrregiment. Landwehr was the reserve or second-line formation of Prussia. Therefore the musket (an M/1809, last flint musket of Prussia btw) was an older hand-me-down form the active units.

It is highly likley that it was fired in the Napoleonic wars, was carried on a weary but prooud shoulder through Paris and maybe was even there on as the Prussian went into the Battle of Waterloo.

Believing that this belongs to an firearm that was in two conflicts that changed the world (Napoleonic and Civil war), I vote Banner!

Thanks for the info and the vote! I will post it in "Today's Finds" tonight and if you like you can cast your vote there. The last bit of info I am trying to figure out is the significance of the 1830 date. Was this the original manufacture/issue date (which is after the Napolonic Wars, at least I think so), or is it the year that the gun was converted from flintlock to percussion?

 

[Patriot Relics]

Never would have guessed butt plate, nice ID Glenn