1839 Republic of Texas General Staff Belt Plate

[hogge]

Recently dug by a friend of mine. He is computer illiterate so I thought I would post. I see NO auction prices realized for this piece. From what I have heard, there are only a handful of examples known. 4-5. THIS THING IS AWESOME! Can someone who knows.....PM me about this piece. THIS IS NOT A REPRO! Enjoy the pics. Hogge

 

[Davers]

What the **&^^6, ^%%^^ WOW!!!!!!!!!
Your buddy Scored BIG. & The Condition is about Perfecto.
Wow.
Davers

 

[villagenut]

Awesome buckle, I am surprised it did not have any bends to it. Looks look stamped brass. Truly one of those"I am so jealous" finds especially for Texans. Great save for sure.

 

[asrussell96]

Oh wow cool find

 

[U.B.]

Wow! I'm proud for your friend. I see things like that, and it fires me up to go hunting. Give your buddy a big ol pat on the back for me.

 

[trapperart]

Congrats to your friend very nice buckle

 

[ecmo]

I myself am not a cw relic hunter and only know what little I do know from mding magazines and this forum,that being said even I can recognize your friend made a fantabulous find!! I think.

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[Fullstock]

My comment is in no way is meant to be negative, but I recently read a discussion about these plates. They are listed on page 233 and 234 of Kerksis' book on plates. Kerksis calls them 1850 Militia plates, but some now believe that they are early Maine militia buckles rather than Texas plates. I could be wrong, but I see you're from New England, so it does make sense. Still a fantastic find, no matter what, and heck, I could be wrong, my wife says I'm wrong all the time!

 

[etex]

Texas civil war artifacts by Richard Ahlstrom has associated with Texas but of the type used by militia units prior to the war and other states are recorded as wearing it Nice find

 

[hogge]

My comment is in no way is meant to be negative, but I recently read a discussion about these plates. They are listed on page 233 and 234 of Kerksis' book on plates. Kerksis calls them 1850 Militia plates, but some now believe that they are early Maine militia buckles rather than Texas plates. I could be wrong, but I see you're from New England, so it does make sense. Still a fantastic find, no matter what, and heck, I could be wrong, my wife says I'm wrong all the time!

Thanks for this info. Started doing some research. Looked at ALL of the known specimens from...Maine, Miss, Texas, and other militia units pre civil and civil war. Although one was close, (associated with Maine), It was not an exact match. THE ONE THAT IS AN EXACT MATCH IS THE ONE ON THE TEXAS 1839 UNIFORM THAT WENT FOR AUCTION. This plate was made from the EXACT MOLD (or variety) of this plate. Right down to size and position of stars and curvature of clasp on the back. 100%. If you "GOOGLE". "1839 TEXAS REPUBLIC UNIFORM"....a full pic with many closeups of the buckle, front and back are seen. This full uniform went up for auction in 2009. Hey....I've been known to be skeptical and wrong. That's why I looked at literally hundreds of plates online. So even though it was found in Ma. , it came from the same mold as this Texas plate. The Maine plate, that was close had very small stars and different leaf design. If someone has different info please post . HOGGE

 

[sutphin]

WELL WHAT THE HAEL HAVE WE GOT HERE , A BEAUTIFUL BUCKLE . CONGRATS ...

 

[Trezurehunter]

That is an awesome find.

 

[patiodadio]

Fabulous find !

 

[BuckleBoy]

Thanks for this info. Started doing some research. Looked at ALL of the known specimens from...Maine, Miss, Texas, and other militia units pre civil and civil war. Although one was close, (associated with Maine), It was not an exact match. THE ONE THAT IS AN EXACT MATCH IS THE ONE ON THE TEXAS 1839 UNIFORM THAT WENT FOR AUCTION. This plate was made from the EXACT MOLD (or variety) of this plate. Right down to size and position of stars and curvature of clasp on the back. 100%. If you "GOOGLE". "1839 TEXAS REPUBLIC UNIFORM"....a full pic with many closeups of the buckle, front and back are seen. This full uniform went up for auction in 2009. Hey....I've been known to be skeptical and wrong. That's why I looked at literally hundreds of plates online. So even though it was found in Ma. , it came from the same mold as this Texas plate. The Maine plate, that was close had very small stars and different leaf design. If someone has different info please post . HOGGE

well, it already seems that you are certain of what it is and isn't, so why ask for people to PM you and post information?

congrats to your friend on the plate with the star on it.

 

[hogge]

well, it already seems that you are certain of what it is and isn't, so why ask for people to PM you and post information?

congrats to your friend on the plate with the star on it.

Just asking for ANY other info as a possible avenue to look into for.....Another possible date range....or affiliation with another State plate or something I haven't yet researched. All I know is it's a match to the Texas Republic plate. If you're looking to "bust" my balls.....We can go that route if you'd like.....Serve it up!

 

[kcm]

Well, "I" for one don't remember. ...I was a bit young at the time.