18th Century Flintlock Frizzen, But from What???????

[indiantrade]

I found this frizzen on an 18th century site that I had been detecting for quite a few years here in NW Ohio.
At this site I have located a lot of complete lock plates and gun parts. (PA long rifles, Brown Bess, French Fussils, etc). What has me puzzled is the fact that this frizzen is very large. When shown next to a lock plate you can see that the two do not go together. The lock plate is very large measuring roughly 8" long.
On the frizzen in question, the part that would cover the flash pan measures 3/4" x 1 1/2"
Overall height is 3"
I hope someone can inform me what this is and show where they got their info.
Thanks again,
indiantrade

 

[BosnMate]

The Brown Bess was large, takes a flint 3/4 or more of an inch across, they call them a "tombstone flint." Also Indian trade muskets had large locks, but not as large as the Brown Bess, at least in my experience, so that makes it a swag. (scientific wild azzed guess) I'd say off a musket rather than a rifle for sure. My Bess is long gone, but I still have some flints someplace. If I can find them I could measure one and know for sure.

 

[indiantrade]

Thanks a bunch BosnMate, I have some very large 'musket' flints and they seem as though they would be ideal for this frizzen. But if this did go on a BB or Musket it would be an extremely huge lock to accommodate its size.
A BB was my first guess as well, and your first instincts are usually correct, but . . . . .

 

[Greybear]

If the frizzed is 3 inches tall it is not from a Bess. It is possible it could be from a Punt Gun. These were very large smooth bore guns and many had an oar lock on the stock that would go into the prow of a small row boat. They were used to drift out to a flock of waterfowl and then shoot into the flock taking many ducks or geese with the single shot. I have seen examples of 4 and 2 bore (gauge). Some were bigger. Some also had the blunderbuss funnel muzzles to aid in loading the shot. The guns could fire up to a pound of shot at a time.

 

[creskol]

It looks suspiciously much like this one: Doglock Musket

 

[gunsil]

I think Greybear is right or at least close. They also had shoulder held "wall guns" which were huge like a punt gun, and I believe more common than punt guns in the colonial era. There is a nice example of a colonial wall gun at the Phillipsburg Manor restoration in Tarrytown, N.Y.