A crate of 19th century guns was found in the fishing net of the Newfoundland

[creskol]

Maybe this has been posted before?

 

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[GoDeep]

Cool find!

 

[pepperj]

Saw a article on the news somewhere about the find.
Really a cool discovery.

 

[Magoopeter]

18th century VOC rifles, maybe not as cool as above but intersting,

 

[Magoopeter]

Box of swords 1745

 

[devldog]

Those were some very nice Historical Finds for sure. Britain supplied the Confederacy with arms, mainly the 58 caliber Enfield Musket. This would have been a find for sure. I guess these were to never reach their destination and sat on the oceans bottom for so many years. Great post, and Thanks for sharing.

 

[Magoopeter]

Those were some very nice Historical Finds for sure. Britain supplied the Confederacy with arms, mainly the 58 caliber Enfield Musket. This would have been a find for sure. I guess these were to never reach their destination and sat on the oceans bottom for so many years. Great post, and Thanks for sharing.

 

[villival]

I'd love to have that in the back of my pickup truck.

 

[Salvor6]

They are in really bad shape after soaking in salt water for so many years.

 

[alanmundell]

Really a cool discovery.

 

[islamoradamark]

That is one heck of a find

 

[TRG]

Interesting that the longer 3 band rifles purpose was so that the soldiers could fire in ranks with the muzzles of the row behind extending beyond the row in front (and long enough so that a bayonet fixed to the muzzle would be effective against cavalry). 'Marksman' title given to those who could hit a 3' bull's eye 7 out of 20 shots at 900 yards. [from Wikipedia]

 

[WaveJunky757]

A .58 black powder enfield isn’t shooting 900yds. Let alone hitting anything your “aiming” at

 

[TRG]

A .58 black powder enfield isn’t shooting 900yds. Let alone hitting anything your “aiming” at

"William Pritchett developed the Pattern 1853 Enfield in the 1850s. The 39 in (99 cm) barrel had three grooves, with a 1:78 rifling twist, and was fastened to the stock with three metal bands, so that the rifle was often called a "three band" model. The rifle's cartridges contained 70 grains (4.5 g)[3] of black powder, and the ball was typically a 530-grain (34 g) Boxer modification of the Pritchett or a Burton-Minié, which would be driven out at about 850 to 900 feet (259–274m) per second.

The original Pritchett design was modified by Col. Boxer, who reduced the diameter to 0.55 after troops found the original 0.568 too hard to load during the Indian Mutiny, changing the mixed beeswax-tallow lubrication to pure beeswax for the same reason, and added a clay plug to the base to facilitate expansion, as the original Pritchett design, which relied only on the explosion of the charge, was found to cause excessive fouling from too slow an expansion, allowing unburnt powder to escape around the bullet.[4] The Enfield's adjustable ladder rear sight had steps for 100 yards (91 m) – the default or “battle sight” range – 200 yards (180 m), 300 yards (270 m), and 400 yards (370 m). For distances beyond that, an adjustable flip-up blade sight was graduated (depending on the model and date of manufacture) from 900 yards (820 m) to 1,250 yards (1,140 m). British soldiers were trained to hit a target 6 feet (180 cm) by 2 feet (61 cm) – with a 2 feet (61 cm) diameter bull's eye, counting 2 points – out to 600 yards (550 m). The target used from 650 yards (590 m) to 900 yards (820 m) had a 3 feet (91 cm) bull's eye, with any man scoring 7 points with 20 rounds at that range being designated a marksman."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_1853_Enfield

"P53 British Enfield Rifle:

• Caliber: .58

• Cartridge: .577 ball

• Maximum Effective Range: 1,250 yards (with accuracy)

• Maximum Range: 2000 yards (20 football fields)

• Weight: 9.5 pounds

• Bayonet: yes"

https://www.independentgreys.com/2nd-md-rifles.html

 

[WaveJunky757]

Yea I read it. I still don’t believe it. Not trying to argue at ALL. But only 70g pushing a 530g bullett at only 850fps just Dosent add up to me. (I’m no physics major). I’ll throw it in the category of “I need to see it to believe it” haha.

 

[TRG]

Discussion regarding both reproduction Enfields and vintage:

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/max-load-for-an-italian-reproduction-enfield.65679/

"Remember, the military 60 grain powder charge behind the 500 grain Minié ball was designed to kill or seriously disable a man at up to 900 yards. There is no wild game that will stand up to that any better."