✅ SOLVED A ring marking and a metal bar

[WHADIFIND]

I posted these under "Today's finds" but, I probably should have posted them here because they're really a couple things I'd like to find more info on. Since I don't know how to move a thread I'll just post them here.

Any info on the ring or the metal bar would be very welcomed.

The two stamps on the ring are it's only markings.

The metal bar, well if I can give any more info that would help, just let me know.

Thanks for taking a peek.

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

999 usually means pure. Maybe its pure silver, lead or solder.

 

[randazzo1]

I agree with Bigcypress on the 999 possibly being a purity mark for lead, silver etc (999 parts out of 1000). You should be able to rule out lead and other soft metals pretty easily on the bar. If you're willing to do this, you will be able to bite off a small piece it it's lead (don't get lead poisoning in the process). In the alternative, you could use a steel knife to shave off a piece. Lead will shave off very easily. The problem is - a sharp steel knife will also slice off a piece of silver - but with a lot more pressure - and the silver tends to curl into little turnings. There are "home" tests for silver, but I haven't found any of them to be useful. An acid kit is the best bet. Most "we buy gold" places will test it for free for you. This may sound crazy, but silver (or silver oxide really) has a smell to it --- its kind of like a very light garlic smell. You could try rubbing it in your hand and then smelling it.

The ring is a stuper - the mark certainly doesn't look western. Arabic perhaps? Also, on the one hand, it looks like a really good ring - tarnished silver look, the construction, the setting of the little cabochon, the detail ---- But on the other hand, the band looks like a cheapy self adjusting band you see on tin gumball rings.

 

[CATFISH]

That's not 999. That's 666. You did it now. Better throw that ring back where you found it.

 

[WHADIFIND]

Thanks for the helpful hints. I'm probably going to get a test kit somewhere down the line anyway. Might as well be now. I was also kind of wondering if anyone had seen a bar/ingot just like this one anywhere. I never have but then, I don't get out much.

I'm sure the 999 is a purity factor but, of what? I tried a few home tests but they didn't help. One thing that kind of puzzles me is that the weight of this thing doesn't seem to match pure lead. It looks like it's about the size of two 2 ounce lead fishing weights but it doesn't weigh as much. 2 ounces = approx. 55 grams. This thing weighs in at 70 grams.

The ring, the marks sort of look like fancy letters. Sort of like a monogram. But, I think you're right in that it may be Asiatic. They probably need to be read vertically like Chinese.

It does have the heft of silver and it does look like old tarnished silver. The red stone almost looks like it could be a ruby. I know it's made with a self-adjusting style. But, it is very well made. I doubt it's a cheapy.

This must just be a lot older than I ever expected.

Anyway, let me know if more pictures would help.

AND, thanks for trying!

HH

 

[jarredsummers]

I am almost 100% sure that 999 is silver and the ring is also silver and that marking is from overseas

 

[jarredsummers]

P.S. I work with gold silver and copper and lead and pewter all day everyday so i see lots of silver and gold markings real and fakes

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I am almost 100% sure that 999 is silver and the ring is also silver and that marking is from overseas

It doesnt look like an authentic early Carl Schon C over S mark but its similar.
*CARL SCHON* Sterling Silver & Ruby SEAHORSE Ring~6.75 | eBay

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

It might be authentic. Carl Schon died in the 20's.. His shop was in downtown Baltimore.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I think its authentic but maybe you need ask Breezie.

Nice find. The one on eBay sold for $150.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Compare your metal bar with this lead solder bar and let me know if the rings CS markings match. I think we have a green check.

 

[FoundInNC]

Great job yall!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

That's not 999. That's 666. You did it now. Better throw that ring back where you found it.

CATFISH is correct. Its 66.6 percent Tin and Lead Solder. I had it upside down.

View attachment 632469View attachment 632470

It may be NATIONAL LEAD CO. Any other questions?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Heres something about the lead industry from 1990-1955 "Cater to the Children": The Role of The Lead Industry in a Public Health Tragedy, 1900-1955 American Journal of Public Health, Vol. 90, No. 1 Jan00


Here is a bar with percentage markings on each end. View attachment 632476

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I tried to send you a PM but it was blocked. New feature I guess.

 

[Sue Mat]

The ring is absolutely a Carl Schon ring. It is his mark.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The ring is absolutely a Carl Schon ring. It is his mark.

Thanks. I thought so but it seems the OP never got the message. I even tried to send a PM. Oh well Im marking it SOLVED.

The solder bars looked like this

 

[WHADIFIND]

Thanks. I thought so but it seems the OP never got the message. I even tried to send a PM. Oh well Im marking it SOLVED.

The solder bars looked like this

OMG!! I had completely forgot about asking this one! (eek!)

Sorry for not paying attention! It is one of my deficits!

Thanks!
And yes, solved!!

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

.999 lead...pure enough for body work or sealing radiators, and large iron pipe...

 

[WHADIFIND]

The ring is absolutely a Carl Schon ring. It is his mark.

Sorry for the delay. I'd never heard of Carl Schon.

Thanks!
HH!