Anglers Crying the Blues...

[placertogo]

Stop the Fishing Tackle Ban! No on AB 2787. - California Sportfishing League

As things stand now, the only people cleaning up the metallic junk left by anglers are our Gold Prospectors...

 

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[Aufisher]

I wish lead was $1300 a lb.!

 

[Peyton Manning]

anglers! they should have stayed in britain

 

[B H Prospector]

Funny how the arguments against AB 2787, loss of tourism, jobs, tax revenue, are the same ones made by the mining industry but not a sound from the other outdoor enthusiast until it comes after them. And we are the ones who clean up after them. One by one all outdoor activities that involve interacting with nature or the outdoors will be attacked by those to stupid and lazy to go outside of the city limits and enjoy Mother Nature as she was meant to be. Time to take the high road and support the Anglers in this fight and show them anyone who enjoys the outdoors needs to stand together against these communist and help each other.

 

[Goldwasher]

I fish, hunt and dig. It's all lame. The B.S. lead hunting ammo ban. Other OHV issues. Most guys I know are affected by one of these "bans" in some way.

We'[re supposed to be able to vote and be heard but it just isn't that way here.

 

[Reed Lukens]

We told them way back then that the fishermen would be next, and still they sided with the greenies against us. I hope it passes because trout unlimited and all of its henchmen are just environazi trash now, used, abused, ridden, and now being attacked by the same people that they helped with their anti-mining propaganda over a decade ago. They're now drowning in their own ignorance and that's life, what goes around, comes around

 

[placertogo]

I agree, Reed. Trout Unlimited did not realize that there are people out there who want THEM out of the stream beds also. And it is not only the issue of lead sinkers. There are those out there who feel that fish hooks are cruel, whether for “catch and release” or otherwise.

 

[Johnnybravo300]

Divide and conquer works everytime.

 

[Bonaro]

Divide and conquer works everytime.

So does riot and burn

...or so I hear

 

[pghmole]

Cali should split into the 2 states that they are proposing and then the liberal new state should become it's own country,it's crazy how bad it is out there with the libtard utopia they have going for themselfs,they can keep all the debt, illegals,homeless and dope heads...hell they could appoint crooked Hillary for the president of libtardia nation!

 

[IMAUDIGGER]

Cali should split into the 2 states that they are proposing and then the liberal new state should become it's own country,it's crazy how bad it is out there with the libtard utopia they have going for themselfs,they can keep all the debt, illegals,homeless and dope heads...hell they could appoint crooked Hillary for the president of libtardia nation!

Every time I see these types of proposed laws in California now, I just shake my head and try to forget about it. We NEED many more of these types of laws and we need them to add up quickly.
The burner on the stove needs to be turned up fast enough so the frogs will take notice.

Otherwise people will never realize they will be better off without the southern half of California.
State of Jefferson!!!!

 

[Thurman]

Gee. Seems like a good law to me but does not go far enough. The lead sinkers they will still allow are HUGE! Must admit I don't know anything about how lead in streams and lakes effect the environment/nature/people. But I know that I don't want to chew lead sinkers or drink from a lead cup.

 

[Duckshot]

Gee. Seems like a good law to me but does not go far enough. The lead sinkers they will still allow are HUGE! Must admit I don't know anything about how lead in streams and lakes effect the environment/nature/people. But I know that I don't want to chew lead sinkers or drink from a lead cup.

Did you know that lead don't dissolve in water until it is oxidized or made into a chloride? What that means is that you can chew on lead sinkers all day long with no ill effect unless they are soaked in hydrocloric acid or have a layer of lead oxide.

Did you know that cities often treat their water with chlorine?

 

[Hamfist]

I wish lead was $1300 a lb.!

We'd be calling you Pbfisher!

 

[faribo]

We told them way back then that the fishermen would be next, and still they sided with the greenies against us. I hope it passes because trout unlimited and all of its henchmen are just environazi trash now, used, abused, ridden, and now being attacked by the same people that they helped with their anti-mining propaganda over a decade ago. They're now drowning in their own ignorance and that's life, what goes around, comes around

This is called "The Useful Idiot".

 

[Thurman]

Did you know that lead don't dissolve in water until it is oxidized or made into a chloride? What that means is that you can chew on lead sinkers all day long with no ill effect unless they are soaked in hydrocloric acid or have a layer of lead oxide.

Did you know that cities often treat their water with chlorine?

Thank you Duckshot,

Good information. I do recall not wanting to drink citrus juice from cheap Mexican glazed cups. Like I said, I know nothing..only anecdotal stuff like eating paint made with lead. Also don't know if lead oxidizes in "nature" like so many other metals. Facts are so refreshing in all discussions. Keep them coming!

 

[mendoAu]

....gill nets contain no lead that drops/breaks off and no sharp hooks that have to be removed. Just a slow death before being sent to the oven. Sounds O.K. to me.

 

[Goldwasher]

3000 dredge permits

only like 9 % dredged on a regular basis.

No negative environmental effects have ever been shown. They did studies and that's why they came up with the regulations at different points.

Based on maybe's and something something......

Meanwhile in other states wildlife departments are using dredges to maintain fisheries.

Cool party

 

[KevinInColorado]

Thank you Duckshot,

Good information. I do recall not wanting to drink citrus juice from cheap Mexican glazed cups. Like I said, I know nothing..only anecdotal stuff like eating paint made with lead. Also don't know if lead oxidizes in "nature" like so many other metals. Facts are so refreshing in all discussions. Keep them coming!

Lead does oxidize in the creekbed. Anyone who has panned out some lead can tell you that as it’s always covered in white lead oxide.

 

[IMAUDIGGER]

Show me one human activity that does not have some affect on the planet.
I cannot think of a single one. Go back to the California condor lead study (which was conviently released AFTER the gov. Signed the lead bullet ban. Doesn’t matter the ban had zero affect after a decade of banning lead.