Ango-Scandinavian Dragon Chape and a Roman Chatelaine Strap Fitting

[woody50]

Found these today, on a roman/celtic/medieval field.

The first is a Roman Chatelaine Strap Fitting (thanks to SS!) and the second is an Ango-Scandinavian dragon chape.
(I had first though it was a horse, but determinations say dragon)

 

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[Silver Searcher]

Re: Horse and ?



Great finds, first one is a Roman Chatelaine Strap Fitting and a stunning one at that second I would say is a mount, perhaps had a rider ..great finds

SS

 

[hammered]

Re: Horse and ?

Great finds, first one is a Roman Chatelaine Strap Fitting and a stunning one at that second I would say is another mount, perhaps had a rider ..great finds

SS

Great finds mate and a great id Colin , you beat me by a few minutes. I didn't have the books for that one, so I had to search UKDFD and only found brooches in that style


hammered

 

[shaun7]

Re: Horse and ?

Very nice Earl Are you over here enjoying our weather

 

[woody50]

Re: Horse and ?

Thanks guys, you are all very quick to respond.

I cleaned up the horse a bit, and thought to look on google images and found the photo here after my horse, they say its a ango-scandinavian chape.

What a chafe is I don't know but will be told I am sure....

 

[woody50]

Re: Horse and ?

Great finds, first one is a Roman Chatelaine Strap Fitting and a stunning one at that second I would say is a mount, perhaps had a rider ..great finds
SS

Thanks SS, you are super quick! What is a Chatelaine? Sounds French. Where would the strap fitting be used (I guess on a horse?).

 

[woody50]

Re: Horse and ?

Very nice Earl Are you over here enjoying our weather

Yes Shaun, been here for almost two weeks, going back Friday. Have enjoyed the English country side very much this year, our 15th year. Every year short pants on while searching, this year then only indoors. And it was much fun chasing our caps this year, really enjoyed being blown down and running. Maybe you will find a few of those plastic sacks this year when the wind dies down, you my keep them. I must remember not to open up the bag with the sacks outside. We here did not really have any rain when we searched, so that was not too bad, but way too cold!

How you making out?

Here another find...

The bell has a T on it, and the initials S C (the S is backwards!)
and has still the ringer in it, my best bell yet.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Re: Horse and ?

Great finds, first one is a Roman Chatelaine Strap Fitting and a stunning one at that second I would say is a mount, perhaps had a rider ..great finds
SS

Thanks SS, you are super quick! What is a Chatelaine? Sounds French. Where would the strap fitting be used (I guess on a horse?).

Chatelaine is just the style of Brooch , the actual meaning is The mistress of a castle, or Clothing & Fashion) a chain or clasp worn at the waist by women in the 16th to the 19th centuries, with handkerchief, keys, etc., attached
3. (Clothing, Personal Arts & Crafts / Jewellery) a decorative pendant worn on the lapel, but dates back way before then, Roman Chatelaine Brooches sometimes had bars beneath, were cosmetic tools like ear scoops and tweezers were hung

SS

 

[woody50]

Re: Horse and ?

Great finds, first one is a Roman Chatelaine Strap Fitting and a stunning one at that second I would say is a mount, perhaps had a rider ..great finds
SS

Thanks SS, you are super quick! What is a Chatelaine? Sounds French. Where would the strap fitting be used (I guess on a horse?).

Chatelaine is just the style of Brooch , the actual meaning is The mistress of a castle, or Clothing & Fashion) a chain or clasp worn at the waist by women in the 16th to the 19th centuries, with handkerchief, keys, etc., attached
3. (Clothing, Personal Arts & Crafts / Jewellery) a decorative pendant worn on the lapel, but dates back way before then, Roman Chatelaine Brooches sometimes had bars beneath, were cosmetic tools like ear scoops and tweezers were hung
SS

Thanks again SS, now I even know that. Have seen the ear scoops before, but never found one.

 

[creskol]

Re: Roman Chatelaine Strap Fitting, and an ango-scandinavian chafe?

... and here I thought it was a rendition of a priest and an alter boy?

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Horse and ?

Thanks guys, you are all very quick to respond.

I cleaned up the horse a bit, and thought to look on google images and found the photo here after my horse, they say its a ango-scandinavian chafe.

What a chafe is I don't know but will be told I am sure....

It went on the end of a sword scabbard to stop the blade poking out the leather, although that Saxon version (very rare) looks more decorative Similar in style to some stirrup mounts of the same period - circa 1000AD

Congrats & welcome back

 

[woody50]

Re: Horse and ?

Thanks guys, you are all very quick to respond.

I cleaned up the horse a bit, and thought to look on google images and found the photo here after my horse, they say its a ango-scandinavian chape.

What a chape is I don't know but will be told I am sure....

It went on the end of a sword scabbard to stop the blade pocking out the leather, although that Saxon version (very rare) look more decorative Similar in style to some stirrup mounts of the same period - circa 1000AD

Congrats & welcome back

Thanks for the information Cru, I would have not thought that the chape was strong enought for that. Do you mean the one I found on Google (very rare)? Well I have never been away, only just not had the time to play very much on the site. Do visit every once in a while. Always think next month I will have more time..... bah, retired life is HARD!

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Horse and ?

Thanks guys, you are all very quick to respond.

I cleaned up the horse a bit, and thought to look on google images and found the photo here after my horse, they say its a ango-scandinavian chafe.

What a chafe is I don't know but will be told I am sure....

It went on the end of a sword scabbard to stop the blade poking out the leather, although that Saxon version (very rare) look more decorative Similar in style to some stirrup mounts of the same period - circa 1000AD

Congrats & welcome back

Thanks for the information Cru, I would have not thought that the chafe was strong enought for that. Do you mean the one I found on Google (very rare)? Well I have never been away, only just not had the time to play very much on the site. Do visit every once in a while. Always think next month I will have more time..... bah, retired life is HARD!

I thought you meant to put chape??

 

[Silver Searcher]

Re: Horse and ?

Thanks guys, you are all very quick to respond.

I cleaned up the horse a bit, and thought to look on google images and found the photo here after my horse, they say its a ango-scandinavian chafe.

What a chafe is I don't know but will be told I am sure....

It went on the end of a sword scabbard to stop the blade pocking out the leather, although that Saxon version (very rare) look more decorative Similar in style to some stirrup mounts of the same period - circa 1000AD

Congrats & welcome back

Thanks for the information Cru, I would have not thought that the chafe was strong enought for that. Do you mean the one I found on Google (very rare)? Well I have never been away, only just not had the time to play very much on the site. Do visit every once in a while. Always think next month I will have more time..... bah, retired life is HARD!

I thought you meant to put chape??

That's what I thought

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Roman Chatelaine Strap Fitting, and an ango-scandinavian chafe?

What does the reverse look like?

 

[HISPAN]

Re: Roman Chatelaine Strap Fitting, and an ango-scandinavian chafe?

Hi WOODY !
Good relics , I'm glad he returned to the fields.
H

 

[woody50]

Re: Horse and ?

Thanks guys, you are all very quick to respond.

I cleaned up the horse a bit, and thought to look on google images and found the photo here after my horse, they say its a ango-scandinavian chape.

What a chape is I don't know but will be told I am sure....

It went on the end of a sword scabbard to stop the blade pocking out the leather, although that Saxon version (very rare) look more decorative Similar in style to some stirrup mounts of the same period - circa 1000AD

Congrats & welcome back

Thanks for the information Cru, I would have not thought that the chafe was strong enought for that. Do you mean the one I found on Google (very rare)? Well I have never been away, only just not had the time to play very much on the site. Do visit every once in a while. Always think next month I will have more time..... bah, retired life is HARD!

I thought you meant to put chape??

Sorry you two, I did not know what a chafe or chape is or was, but will change my spelling!

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Horse and ?

Thanks guys, you are all very quick to respond.

I cleaned up the horse a bit, and thought to look on google images and found the photo here after my horse, they say its a ango-scandinavian chape.

What a chape is I don't know but will be told I am sure....

It went on the end of a sword scabbard to stop the blade pocking out the leather, although that Saxon version (very rare) look more decorative Similar in style to some stirrup mounts of the same period - circa 1000AD

Congrats & welcome back

Thanks for the information Cru, I would have not thought that the chafe was strong enought for that. Do you mean the one I found on Google (very rare)? Well I have never been away, only just not had the time to play very much on the site. Do visit every once in a while. Always think next month I will have more time..... bah, retired life is HARD!

I thought you meant to put chape??

Sorry you two, I did not know what a chafe or chape is or was, but will change my spelling!

http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/213163
Just checked, its similar to the above Chape, & as I said, its very rare

 

[woody50]

Re: Roman Chatelaine Strap Fitting, and an Ago-Scandinavian chape?

Your every wish is my command!

Both sides....

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Roman Chatelaine Strap Fitting, and an Ago-Scandinavian chape?

Your every wish is my command!

Both sides....

wow, its near complete, just missing 1 of the upright attachments That is lucky

PS, PAS site says knife, or I guess small dagger type

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php?topic=420413.0
Did you see my nice Roman type