Any info about the shield appreciated?

[Broken knee]

Any info about the shield appreciated?

I found this button yesterday mine has an oval border. Sorry no pic my cam. has to much resolution file size is to large?
Someone posted this one, Circa 1800-15 Eagle Excelsior Button From The Belt Plate Woods
Posted Nov 15, 2006, 02:47:14 PM. In the responses there is a pic, mine is to the right of the posters button. My question is what date would mine be and the possible value? Thanks HH
Broken Knee

Any info on changing the file size of my pic's? Greatly appreciated

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Re: excelsior eagle button ?

If your button's emblem is exactly the same as the one shown in the drawing you posted, you've found a New York State Militia button. That exact button-emblem is listed (and shown) in the Alphaeus Albert button-book as button #NY-9B. (The drawing you posted is a scan from the Albert book.) The only backmark listed for button #NY-9B is "H. Wishart" ...who was in business from 1784 to at least 1810.

You asked how to change the filesize of photos. There are various "image-management" programs for doing that. The program I use is Windows Photo Gallery. When you use it to view a photo, at the top of the screen you'll see an option to Email the photo. Use that option to email the photo too yourself. The program will automatically downsize the photo's filesize, without making the photo look any smaller.

 

[timekiller]

Re: excelsior eagle button ?

Not sure what size yours is which would help some but there are three here of different sizes & makers.Also gives you a Idea of a price.Otherwise CBG has ID it.
Take Care,
Pete,
http://www.civilwarbuttons.com/usstatelist.htm

 

[creskol]

Re: excelsior eagle button ?

Here is Broken knee's button!

 

[Broken knee]

Re: excelsior eagle button ?

Not sure what size yours is which would help some but there are three here of different sizes & makers.Also gives you a Idea of a price.Otherwise CBG has ID it.
Take Care,
Pete,
http://www.civilwarbuttons.com/usstatelist.htm

Thanks, Timekiller this one in your link looks like it. us112 NY11 New York, 1-piece. Nicely gilted. "Treble Gilt/StanDd Colour"
but my back mark says, (silvered surface warranted). I cant find any with my back mark?
Broken Knee

 

[Broken knee]

Re: excelsior eagle button ?

Here is Broken knee's button!

Nice, Thanks Creskol !!!
Broken Knee

 

[creskol]

Re: excelsior eagle button ?

Here is Broken knee's button!

Nice, Thanks Creskol !!!
Broken Knee

You are welcome .. Both are gorgeous! Hope somebody can ID that badge! The attachment makes me think it is post Civil War .. but I could be wrong. Whatever it dates to, It sure is pretty!

 

[Broken knee]

Re: excelsior eagle button ?

Here is Broken knee's button!

Nice, Thanks Creskol !!!
Broken Knee

You are welcome .. Both are gorgeous! Hope somebody can ID that badge! The attachment makes me think it is post Civil War .. but I could be wrong. Whatever it dates to, It sure is pretty!

The shield only has 9 stars? but 13 bars? that's weird. Update it does have 13 stars.
BK

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Re: excelsior eagle button ?

Broken Knee, now that the photo of your button has been posted, I can tell you that it is definitely NY-10 (the one which is cut in half by the edge of the scan you previously posted).

For accurate ID of buttons, extra-cose examination of the emblem's small details is crucial. (It's like playing the game titled "Can You Spot 5 Differences Between These Two Pictures?".)

On the civilwarbuttons.com website (linked by Timekiller), you can see that on NY-11 the twist-lines in the rope which the half-globe is sitting on lean to the right. On the websites US107 NY-10, the half-globe base's rope-twists lean to the left -- like on your button.

Your button appears to be very nearly an exact match with the specimen shown as NY-10 in the Albert-book photo. Close examination of the two NY-10 buttons at civilwarbuttons.com shows they are not an exact match with the Albert-book photo. In the book's NY-10 photo, there is a V-shaped space between the eagle's neck and the wing-top on the button's right ...just like your button shows.

On both of the website's two "NY-10" buttons, there is no gap at all between the eagle's neck and the wing-top on the right. But that doesn't mean they are "strictly" not NY-10. The Albert book says there are many variations of NY-10. So, the website is showing two NY-10 "Variants." Your button is another of the variations of NY-10.

Also according to the Albert book, your variation of NY-10 is usually seen having the backmark "Lewis & Tomes / Extra Rich." Some other NY-10 Variants have the backmark "T.Potts / Imperial / J.M." The buttons were made in England (where Lewis was a merchant) and imported into the US. The Lewsis & Tomes firm was listed as having an office in New York City from 1819 to 1826.

 

[Broken knee]

Re: excelsior eagle button ?

Broken Knee, now that the photo of your button has been posted, I can tell you that it is definitely NY-10 (the one which is cut in half by the edge of the scan you previously posted).

For accurate ID of buttons, extra-cose examination of the emblem's small details is crucial. (It's like playing the game titled "Can You Spot 5 Differences Between These Two Pictures?".)

On the civilwarbuttons.com website (linked by Timekiller), you can see that on NY-11 the twist-lines in the rope which the half-globe is sitting on lean to the right. On the websites US107 NY-10, the half-globe base's rope-twists lean to the left -- like on your button.

Your button appears to be very nearly an exact match with the specimen shown as NY-10 in the Albert-book photo. Close examination of the two NY-10 buttons at civilwarbuttons.com shows they are not an exact match with the Albert-book photo. In the book's NY-10 photo, there is a V-shaped space between the eagle's neck and the wing-top on the button's right ...just like your button shows.

On both of the website's two "NY-10" buttons, there is no gap at all between the eagle's neck and the wing-top on the right. But that doesn't mean they are "strictly" not NY-10. The Albert book says there are many variations of NY-10. So, the website is showing two NY-10 "Variants." Your button is another of the variations of NY-10.

Also according to the Albert book, your variation of NY-10 is usually seen having the backmark "Lewis & Tomes / Extra Rich." Some other NY-10 Variants have the backmark "T.Potts / Imperial / J.M." The buttons were made in England (where Lewis was a merchant) and imported into the US. The Lewsis & Tomes firm was listed as having an office in New York City from 1819 to 1826.

Thanks CBG the back mark is (silvered surface warranted)
BK

 

[timekiller]

Re: excelsior eagle button ?

Not sure what size yours is which would help some but there are three here of different sizes & makers.Also gives you a Idea of a price.Otherwise CBG has ID it.
Take Care,
Pete,
http://www.civilwarbuttons.com/usstatelist.htm

Thanks, Timekiller this one in your link looks like it. us112 NY11 New York, 1-piece. Nicely gilted. "Treble Gilt/StanDd Colour"
but my back mark says, (silvered surface warranted). I cant find any with my back mark?
Broken Knee

"Thanks, Timekiller this one in your link looks like it."
No problem on my part glad to help out some.Maybe if nothing else it will give you a ballpark idea for a price.
You All Take Care,
Pete,

 

[Broken knee]

Re: excelsior eagle button? Solved. Now Any info about the shield appreciated?

Thanks, Broken Knee