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This piece was found along the Dan river in VA. Right on NC line. Has any one ever found one like it or close to it

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In my professional opinion it's plastic. Probably bought at Wal Mart and tumbled in the river for a while.
Hah! Just kidding. Don't let these guys bother you. If they read the rules, they arent supposed to do what they are doing in the first place.
 
I don't think that it is relief carving, as that Is more 3d.

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So the facial features aren't "raised" at all from the surface, they are just scratched or carved in? I guess it's the photo which makes it appear that way.:icon_scratch:
 
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So the facial features aren't "raised" at all from the surface, they are just scratched or carved in? I guess it's the photo which makes it appear that way.:icon_scratch:

The eyes, nose, cheeks, and mouth do pert-rude some. However, not like the relief art that I have seen. I think that this piece is post columbus , so not really old. Many of the occaneech natives in my area were moved out by white man. I have been told that this piece is similar to the weeping eye. If you look, one eye is squinted. I found this along the Dan river, a major source of transportation , and near land that was taken during Bacon's rebellion. I think it dates back that far (1676) I don't know that, however. This piece is almost a curse to have found. No one will ever know what it is, nor what it is symbolic of. That, for a person like me, is a hard pill to swallow.
 
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It looks like a pagan symbol for air or wind (the cheeks are puffed out and it looks like he is blowing) definitely not a weeping eye motif or Native American. You can buy pendants like these at metaphysical gift shops made from metal, bone, shell etc. It was most likely dropped there from someone canoeing or camping. It wouldnt take long in a river to make a bone pendant look pretty old. Kind of reminded me of antler.
 
JMMO.....But the carving looks like one of those Earth,Wind,Fire type faces, rather new looking to me, But I'm no expert at all.............HH
 
It looks like a pagan symbol for air or wind (the cheeks are puffed out and it looks like he is blowing) definitely not a weeping eye motif or Native American. You can buy pendants like these at metaphysical gift shops made from metal, bone, shell etc. It was most likely dropped there from someone canoeing or camping. It wouldnt take long in a river to make a bone pendant look pretty old. Kind of reminded me of antler.
Yes, but are they hand carved? This one definitely is. There are many examples of this in early times including Christianity, in particular, Catholicism. Here is one such example-

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And the sun face in Utah carved in rock-

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Just to name a couple.
 
Do you know an approximate date? Is it as old as the catacombs? I was not thinking pre historic at all.
 
I suppose native Americans were pagan people. They worshiped nature, and each element of nature had its own ceremony. They would have had fire, water, wind, ext. pendants.
 
No one knows how old the sun face in Utah is, some say it's 1800's when it was discovered by a cowboy and some say the Utes made it while others say it's much older. I'm not saying it's prehistoric, i'm just saying that the symbol of the sun face has been around for thousands of years in many different forms in many different cultures. From the Babylonians, Greeks, Romans and Egyptians to Incans and Native Americans. Other than that I know nothing, but it is a cool find.
 
Okay, looks to be some part of the base of an antler. Slice off a fossilized piece of walrus tusk or antler base and scrimshaw it.Best guess.Stryker
 
Okay, looks to be some part of the base of an antler. Slice off a fossilized piece of walrus tusk or antler base and scrimshaw it.Best guess.Stryker
 
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Digummup, you are the most helpful and humane person on here. Thank you for being serious natured and not child like. Striker did also have a relative theory. Thanks
 
This looks like bone to me, I know I'm only in high school but I took biology, anatomy and physiology and Cincinnati st Xavier is a pretty good school lol. You can see what look like little bubbles where it's been chipped and those are indicative of a bone not turtle shell, turtle shells are not that color either. When I look at it I just see bone. And I agree that it looks more central American, the sun is pretty big in mayan culture so maybe it was a trade item that somehow made its way to your neck of the woods. I would consider going to a local university and getting it carbon dated? I'm sure a paleontology class or something along those lines would have access to that process and equipment. Let me know what happens. Bblaha
 
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This looks like bone to me, I know I'm only in high school but I took biology, anatomy and physiology and Cincinnati st Xavier is a pretty good school lol. You can see what look like little bubbles where it's been chipped and those are indicative of a bone not turtle shell, turtle shells are not that color either. When I look at it I just see bone. And I agree that it looks more central American, the sun is pretty big in mayan culture so maybe it was a trade item that somehow made its way to your neck of the woods. I would consider going to a local university and getting it carbon dated? I'm sure a paleontology class or something along those lines would have access to that process and equipment. Let me know what happens. Bblaha

Swift thinking. With technology, they should be able to tell me what animal the bone came from. I had a college professor tell me it was cut out of human shin . If so, DNA is so advanced in the forensics field, they could surely tell human from any thing else. Thanks for the light bulb!
 

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