I know I said I was going to back out of the discussion but it has taken a direction in the last day or so that has freshened some of the issues. ?Lets see if I can put some thoughts down . ?
As for the detectors being built by BH for RS or WM. ? There may be a couple possibilities here. A manufacturer might be looking to expand their sales. Say Bounty Hunter. ?Their marketing people say, Lets sell detectors through large mass market chains. ?But, their regular detectors might be too expensive to sell to the average buyer at Target, Walmart, Radio Shack.... ? So, they go to their engineers and say, these are the features that we want. ?We need simplicity in operation for the mass markets and we need to keep the per unit cost down to

. ? Design us a line of detectors to fill that market. ? So, they set out to build a line of detectors, marketed to a mass retailers market. ?That might mean changing some items, retaining the function but saving, as one other writer said here about Quasar... ?Save a penny here and a nickle there. ?In the end, if it adds up to about $20 or $30 per unit in savings, or actually considering the costs of manufacturing, $5 might be enough to effect a bottom line. ?That might be what they need to make a marketable machine. ?Or, ?A chain, say Radio Shack, ?will decide that they need a manufacturer for their merchandise. ?They don't build it themselves and their current supplier isn't able to produce the product anymore. ?Or, as I suspect with RS, they decide, we need some supplier for this product. ?We don't want a no name, or annonomous, manufacturer or sell under TANDY or RADIO SHACK. ?We need a name brand and a manufacturer who is known and respected and whos brand we can ride on. ?So, they go to other manufacturers and, as mentioned above, say this is what we want, these are the features and this is what we are willing to pay, per unit, so we can sell at

and make a profit. ?
There was a point, several years ago, don't recall how long, that Radio Shack was in severe trouble. ?They were closing stores all over, talking about stopping the sale of parts and such. Going to all catalog business... ? A lot of the Tandy or Radio Shack Branded produtcts weren't selling well. ?I guess, many of those products seemed to be a big problem. ?At least that is what the big difference I see today is. ?There isn't as much stuff sold as TANDY or RADIO SHACK, brands. They might have been paying a lot to produce this stuff. ?Even though the products were being made by top manufacturers they didn't have a great reputation for quality. ?Perhaps it was due to such short cutting as is being suggested. ?To keep the per unit costs down and profits up. ? Compared to then, they now are selling a lot from established manufacturers and selling branded merchandise like Sony, Motorola, Apple IPOD, RCA ... ?and other name brand items in their stores. ?Most of the stuff that they sell no name, is actually built by other manufacturers to design specs made by Radio Shack. ?They still do sell some of the best scanners out there. ? I have a Pro-95(

) made by a company called GRE, I think it is. One of the more popular, of it's time (now discontinued), among the amature radio and scanning groups I read. ? ? In the case of the Bounty Hunters, it could be that Radio Shack was looking for a new supplier for their metal detectors. One with a positive reputation and brand name. ? Talking with people at BH, Radio Shack buyers and designers, rather than buying an off the shelf, existing model, or Bounty Hunter, due to contracts with their regular dealers, ?that might prohibit the sale of such models, might have decided to have the manufacturer make some models that Radio Shack could sell, EXCLUSIVELY, in their stores. They might model after an existing model but have to change it enough to make it different from what is sold by regular Bounty Hunter dealers, or to lower the per unit cost to maintain a price level and profit fitting Radio Shacks market. ? So, the prices of the regular models might not represent a big enough profit margin for RS ?or might be too expensive for the average Radio Shack customer. ?So,as is often the case on stuff like electronics.... ?they work with designers to take a product and modify or customize it for their needs or market. ? Maybe, using some cheaper parts or ?materials, here or there, ?or cheaper designs. Saving a penny or nickel or dime on this part and that.... ?Thus, while the machine might be nearly identical to one of the off the shelf models, there could be subtle differences that could mean a lot in long term performance. ? Or, maybe the quality of some of the parts inside could be compromised. When they are working they might be just as functional as the regular products. ?However, they might not have the longevity or durability. ? As I recall, and it has been some time since I took an electronics course in college, resistors, capacitors and transistors, etc. have different quality or tolerance ratings. ?Some might be cheaper than others. ?Some might overload more quickly than others or hold up to more, or less, internal heat... Dropping a grade or two in quality, multiplied by the numbers of the parts used, could add up significantly in the bottom line. ? Some parts might be less expensive and more fragile or even parishable (wear out quicker over time). ?Circuit boards can be built to take a lot of shock and abuse, say dropping on pavement or banging around in the back of your car, ?and some may be brittle as a ginger snap. ?Also, the metal that the circuit tracks are made of can be thick and durable to hold up to oxidation from being near a beach, Or, like an old Canon camera I had, the slightest moisture and amount of salt in the air would cause oxidation on the electrically charged circuit connections causing shorts and corrosion that would eat the tracks off the board. In the case of the camera, the tracks were gold for conductivity reasons. ?Due to expense, they were thin. ?Gold being soft, meant that the slightest effort to remove the oxidation would result in removing, tearing or breaking the tracks or circuits. ?Thus, entire boards needed to be replaced and could not be cleaned. ? I took my camera to FLA a couple times and twice had to pay, nearly the cost of the camera, to have entire boards replaced. ? ?I am not saying this is the case with the Radio Shack Bounty Hunters but just suggesting that what appears to be identical, produced by a reputable manufacturer, could be redesigned for a retailer, (Radio Shack or Walmart) to add more profit or lower priceing and could be quite different under the skin.
Do as had been suggested. ?Go to boards that specialize in Bounty Hunter, ?I think someone posted a couple. ?Read some reviews there and ask some questions of people who might have the machines. ? Look not only for the success people are having with them but also how long they have been using the machines and if they are using them in a similar climate as where you live. ?If you live, as I do, up north like near Chicago, you don't have the same issues as if you live in, say South Florida and are going to be going down to salt water beaches where more salt in the air and moisture could cause a deminishing in the life of a machine due to oxidation and corrosion on internal circuits and in switches. ?A machine built with some short cuts like moisture seals might require different care and precautions. ?
You don't mention what model you are looking at. ?What is your budget. ? I think, as others have been trying to suggest, if you are in the $200 or $300 range, you simply might be happier, in the long term, spending that money on a more known and reputable machine like a White's Prizm III or a Garrett Ace 250. ?If you are lower, say around $100 or so, maybe waiting a short bit to put a little more money asside will be better in the long run. ? But, if you have compared the machines and are completely satisfied, then seeing if anyone has any pictures of recent finds might be a way of confirming or not, your decisions. ?I would say, if Walmart or Radio Shack was my only sources of equipment, I would do all the research I can, on my own. ?Knowing, as I and others have said, those retailers are not going to be your best source of customer service. ?All that service is going to need to be done on your own. ?Also, it occours to me, without knowing what model you are leaning to, anyone who has one and might post some pictures can't help you till they know what model you are looking at. ?
Happy Hunting to All,