anyone got a clue???

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I collect indian artifacts and found this mystery piece last winter in a creek in central ohio.It is approximately 5 1/2 inches in diameter and 5 inches thick.It is very dense and weighs a little over ten pounds.It is very symmetrical and has a central ridge that goes around the whole piece(from casting??)I dont know the material.I have done a hardness test and it is harder than a 16 penny nail,I also took a swing at it with a framing hammer and it barely chipped the surface.I dont believe it is hollow and there is no plug that would be found on explosive cannonballs.My guess is that it is a cannonball,but that is only a guess.I have ruled out it being a geo.So what is it???I appreciate any help on this piece.Thanks in advance.Greg
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May I suggest the next time you test something, don't take a hammer to it. If it were live ordnance you may have faced a problem, even after 150 years. Although no was was killed in the opening battle at Fort Sumpter, 2 soldiers were killed in the 1960's when they threw some cannon balls into a fire to keep warm
 

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spartacus53 said:
May I suggest the next time you test something, don't take a hammer to it. If it were live ordnance you may have faced a problem, even after 150 years. Although no was was killed in the opening battle at Fort Sumpter, 2 soldiers were killed in the 1960's when they threw some cannon balls into a fire to keep warm
lol.If it had a plug i would have not got the eastwing out,boom not good!!so are you saying this is a cannonball?thx.
 

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now i know you dont want me to start talking trash.hope you guys can get over 500 this year.im glad its football season.goodluck treasure hunting. :thumbsup:
 

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greg-rocks said:
traderoftreasures said:
looks like corn meal grinder from woodland era
IMO this is not a indian relic.I would like to see a corn meal grinder or any kind of grinder that looks like this piece.thx for the comment.
looks more like a corn meal grinder than a cannon ball. :headbang:
 

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Would it be from some type of milling machine then? It looks more oval than round to me.
 

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greg, about that hammer, I'm not worried about the thing exploding. I just don't want to see an ancient indian artifact turned to gravel.
 

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Sorry Greg
I thought these guys might be able to find another example if that is what it is? I can not find anything.
TnMtns
 

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What kind of testing have you done besides the hammer and 16 penny nail?

Will a magnet stick?

Does it float?(could be a duck...!) hehe

What color streak test?

From the pictures and description it looks like an iron concretion to me.
I have seen some really big ones in south Texas(think wheelbarrow size)

Doesn't appear smooth enough to have been used as a mano.

Maybe a Goliath sized sling stone?
 

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johnnyi said:
greg, about that hammer, I'm not worried about the thing exploding. I just don't want to see an ancient indian artifact turned to gravel.
i really dont think it is an indian relic,thats not to say it couldnt be.In my 30 years of collecting/hunting i have never seen anything comparable.I didnt take a lumber jack swing at it,and it didnt do much damage at all so it wont be gravel.i use it as a paper weight on my desk,a good conversation peice.thx for the comments. :thumbsup:
 

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TnMountains said:
Sorry Greg
I thought these guys might be able to find another example if that is what it is? I can not find anything.
TnMtns
no sweat TnMts,it is an odd piece and yes it is shaped more oval than round.
 

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searcher said:
What kind of testing have you done besides the hammer and 16 penny nail?

Will a magnet stick?

Does it float?(could be a duck...!) hehe

What color streak test?

From the pictures and description it looks like an iron concretion to me.
I have seen some really big ones in south Texas(think wheelbarrow size)

Doesn't appear smooth enough to have been used as a mano.

Maybe a Goliath sized sling stone?
I have done a few different test on it.I used a magnet on it,not magnetic.It does not float,i found it in a foot of water and it weighs over 10 lbs.I have done a couple hardness test on it.the nail,a peice of glass,a peice of flint,it is harder than all of those.It doesnt have any wear use you would see on a mano or corn meal grinder lol.That would have to be one heck of dude to sling that stone but it would do some damage if it connected. :dontknow:
 

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greg-rocks said:
johnnyi said:
greg, about that hammer, I'm not worried about the thing exploding. I just don't want to see an ancient indian artifact turned to gravel.
i really dont think it is an indian relic,thats not to say it couldnt be.In my 30 years of collecting/hunting i have never seen anything comparable.I didnt take a lumber jack swing at it,and it didnt do much damage at all so it wont be gravel.i use it as a paper weight on my desk,a good conversation peice.thx for the comments. :thumbsup:

Mano from Custer County Oklahoma.

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it could be crushing media from a grinder
 

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