Anyone Like Cud Errors? (Pic)

[JasonB]

I found this nice one yesterday. A similar one sold recently on eBay for $65. This is one is a nicer coin and the cud is larger.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1985-USA-CENT-M...mQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item2558571316

 

[DrDetector]

Great find!

 

[mistergee]

yep...thats a good one

 

[AGCoinHunter]

Nice find on the cud. Still looking for my first one. Have seen a lot of those on the 83 nickel posted lately. Keeping an eye out for it.

 

[Coinkid]

Nice cud!




-Paul

 

[silvereagle78]

That is definitely a nice one. I found my first about 1 1/2 months ago also a Lincoln. When I found mine I knew what it was and didn't think that it would bring much of a premium. Then a few weeks ago I was looking at feebay and was amazed at how much they go for. I guess my question is, How rare are rim cuds?

 

[enamel7]

Here's one I found Jason.

 

[JasonB]

I'm not sure how rare they are, some of the big cent hunters here could probably give you an idea.

Nice one, enamel! Is that a what reverse by chance? The date font style looks older.

 

[coinmojo]

All right. Can we get a little help here.

In the interest in educating the masses, and me. Could someone please explain how a cud error occurs and the difference between a cud and a rim error?

All information would be appreciated.

I should know this by now but my focus has been on culling silver. I still keep my eyes peeled open for other stuff like errors but not on any grand scale.

Perhaps Jason can educate us since this is his post.

There is just so much to learn, and this site has so many knowledgeable people and a wealth of information.

This is one of the learning opportunity's. Thanks in Advance for any responses to my question.

Mojo

 

[JasonB]

I have no clue, I just think they are cool. I'm interested also. Good question, Mojo.

 

[DigginThePast]

Cool cuds guys.

Coinmojo – A “cud” occurs when a portion of the die breaks off. As you can see the resulting strike leaves what appears to be a blob of metal on the coin. However, this is not a blob but merely a non-struck portion of the coin blank. The non-struck portion usually includes the edge but does not have to. Value and rarity will depend on the severity of the cud and availability in the market but there is usually a good demand for better examples.

"Rim errors" occur only on the rim and include extra pieces of metal (burrs) attached to the coin. Again, value is dependant on severity and the market.

As with any errors the best ones to find are the proof issues. These will almost always be extremely rare due to the proof minting process.

 

[dasherhunting]

I have only found 2 in the last year and a hlfa one alone 2 weeks ago. Found 4 blank planchets last week alone. The one i have has the cud right over the date lol so cant figure out what year it was.

 

[Goes4ever]

only cud I ever found was a rim cud on a 1917-S wheat, and I found it last week detecting, you think it has any extra value?

 

[DigginThePast]

only cud I ever found was a rim cud on a 1917-S wheat, and I found it last week detecting, you think it has any extra value?

That actually looks like a rim error to me. I presume it should have some added value to an error collector. I'll see if I can dig up a pic to show what I'm talking about.

 

[Goes4ever]

I thought it even possibly has a small die break at about 8 o'clock as well, do you see what i am referring to?

 

[DigginThePast]

Okay,

1st pic: You can see the extra material on the rim is still "standing".

2nd pic: You can see where the extra material on the rim got folded over and subsequently was struck through.

Now on your 1917-S, it looks as though there was some extra material standing after the minting process. Before being lost in the ground that extra metal got bent over and is now pressed tightly against the rim face of the coin. It could also be a cud but to me, without holding it in hand, it looks like a rim error. It would also be an unusual break to the die to form such a perfect cud following the rim.

 

[DigginThePast]

I thought it even possibly has a small die break at about 8 o'clock as well, do you see what i am referring to?

Yes I see that also and did mean to mention it. Not enough sleep last night has me working slowly today.

I find your coin interesting and do think it would carry a premium. How much? I don't think it would be huge but I would treat the coin with some respect, put it in a holder, don't just toss in a wheatie bucket.

 

[Goes4ever]

I thought it even possibly has a small die break at about 8 o'clock as well, do you see what i am referring to?

Yes I see that also and did mean to mention it. Not enough sleep last night has me working slowly today.

I find your coin interesting and do think it would carry a premium. How much? I don't think it would be huge but I would treat the coin with some respect, put it in a holder, don't just toss in a wheatie bucket.

I actually needed it in my Lincoln set, so in the book it went. Was pretty nice shape for a dug coin.

 

[DigginThePast]

I thought it even possibly has a small die break at about 8 o'clock as well, do you see what i am referring to?

Yes I see that also and did mean to mention it. Not enough sleep last night has me working slowly today.

I find your coin interesting and do think it would carry a premium. How much? I don't think it would be huge but I would treat the coin with some respect, put it in a holder, don't just toss in a wheatie bucket.

I actually needed it in my Lincoln set, so in the book it went. Was pretty nice shape for a dug coin.

My feelings also. Congrats on the find.