Ha ha. 😄 Hello Tim.
You almost had me ready to give you a detailed reply.
But after thinking about your post, I realized it wasn't necessary.
I, too, had considered a reply in your style using almost the same arguments, but I discarded the idea immediately.
By the way, it’s obvious you used to be a dealer and are really hooked on certain brands.
But experience tells me that... I’m digressing.
Everything you mentioned might hold true for certain types of targets.
But we’re talking about relic hunting here.
And you’re right about that: the iron filter should work, and small items shouldn't get masked.
We’re talking about small items—and possibly iron items, too—that shouldn't be filtered out.
To use your terminology: it would require extreme fine-tuning and a very open iron filter setting on the DFX to hunt for artifacts as accurately and successfully as with an MXT. But show me a user who actually drops their iron discrimination down to -40?!
It is hugely important for an object to be identified in a stable and reproducible way.
In one video, someone praised the Simplex, saying it was still very good even with a 15-point ID fluctuation. B.$.!!
For me, that’s absolutely useless in the field.
And if there’s iron nearby, it’s a nightmare.
Besides, I don't like Minelab's audio tones. That has nothing to do with the performance of those machines, though.
Fisher detectors are good, too. And if I didn't have an MXT in my collection, I’d own an F75.
Where I hunt, there are countless pieces of shrapnel and remnants of ammunition, surrounded by corroded iron fragments.
Yet, hidden right in the midst of this, lie pieces of jewelry, coins, and other items that people like me consider worth collecting—and for which we hand over the majority of our finds to the appropriate authorities.
It is therefore crucial that a potentially significant find is properly and reliably reported.
And just think about the kind of equipment used in archaeological excavations! Sorry, no Simplex or Vanquish.
Hey there!!
I enjoyed reading that!! You are correct with some of the parts about my favorite brands ....but they used to be my favorite brand.
I do not go by videos or other users opinion when it comes to my post. It is all from my own experience out in the field using metal detectors on sites I have swung others on.
I had a manticore and I liked it. It is a great unit but I am not a big fan of minelab as a company...they make great units at several price points but they think they own the multi frequency technology and are well known here in the US with taking other brands to court and trying to win patent lawsuits.
I only mentioned the vanquish for an example but I believe the nokta score machines would do just as good and maybe even better in the 400 dollar range
I too liked the MXT...it was my all time favorite unit made by whites. I have owned and used just about every configuration of that model.
I found civil war bullets, buttons, Indian head pennies, barber dimes, mercury dimes, old pocket spills with silver mixed in, rings.....lots of goodies with my MXT detectors.
But once I got a few nokta makro units and an XP ORX....my use of whites detectors went to the back burner and eventually were sold.
I will still buy one occasionally but they do not hang around long.
I do not want you to mis interpret my post above.
I only stated what I thought because I would like other detectorist who are on the fence that still use older VLF machines to go ahead and try a newer unit. They are lighter, have better seperation and punch deeper too.
I came across a small civil war picket post or campsite here on my own land. I discovered it with a Tesoro silver sabre uMax with the small 6 inch white coil. I found 2 civil war US bit bosses about 10 feet from one another and some cast lead where they were making bullets.
So I searched and searched on and off for about 8 years..I used an F75, MXT, nokta racer, dfx, Anfibio, racer 2 with a 13 inch coil and a few other units all in the same area. I only found 3 more fired bullets.
It took about 8 years before I bought my first XP detector and I bought one shortly after they released it. The ORX is not a multi frequency unit but has selectable frequencies with the 9 inch HF coil going up to 31khz.
As soon as I started detecting with the orx in the exact same area I dug another 21 fired musket balls in a period of about 3 days....they were all 8 inches and deeper that were masked by bits of iron and square nails and that was with a 9 inch coil using 31khz.
I had an old farm house I would try detectors on too. I used the exact same machines that I tried on that little civil war camp here at home with at that old farm house.
It was to where when I would take a different detector there that I was not finding any more coins or good signals.
When I took that orx there the first time to try it out I found 9 coins in the exact same area near the front steps that I swung all of those older flagship models over within a 45 minute time frame. None were silver but a lot of them were next to iron or on edge
That sold me right there on newer technology and I have not stopped trying to get a detector that performs better than the previous ones ever since
Now I have other XP units as well as a Nokta legend 2.
Yes my units cost a bit more than 400 bucks but if you get a pre owned 1st generation legend or even a used XP ORX I think your finds will go up a bit ..or at least wiggle out some goodies your tesoro and fishers have missed next to iron and old square nails.
I think you would enjoy it!
