Attention MAMUCKER; Pics of stone triangle point

[Edgychris1]

Hi,

This point is an oddball for sure. Here are the pics of the base you requested a while ago.

I do believe this point is late paleo, possible dalton.

This is not a Snappit, Squib, or Levanna
I do not care about opinions that conclude so.

This is an extremly odd point out of all the points I've found.

Rare is relative.

This was a solitary find with no other evidence of natives within a decent perimeter.

 

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[Tdog]

Attention MAMUCKER; Pics of stone triangle point

This is not a Snappit, Squib, or Levanna
I do not care about opinions that conclude so.

For God's sake, don't say one of those!

 

[Relicgrubber]

I can’t make out any flaking in your pics. How thick is it?

 

[MAMucker]

Well what can I say? I like a challenge.

The fact that you have it in hand gives you the examination advantage.

I can say that I like it as an early triangle. And it?s quite a beauty. The mottled or calico lithic is not something I have seen before. Charl has way more insight on materials and the nuances of types than I do. I hope he will give his opinion too.

Boudreau notes that identification of triangle points is difficult. Grinding is often the key. I don?t remember if you noted grinding on the basal edges. Nor do I recall if you said it was fluted or had deep basal thinning. Fluting would be a game changer.

Those sharply pointed Ears are unique but unhelpful to me. The deep concave base may be indicative of Hardaway Dalton if there is basal grinding.

I have a quartz point that is similar in shape, size, ears and has basal grinding. I?ll post it here as a reference. I have played with the editing to show up the flaking a little better.

I think yours and this one would fit within the Hardaway Dalton Type. Or they could be a transitional variant that falls between Hardaway Dalton and Snappit Points.

 

[H.P.]

Doesn’t look like it has basel smoothing...nice point.

 

[Edgychris1]

Well what can I say? I like a challenge.

The fact that you have it in hand gives you the examination advantage.

I can say that I like it as an early triangle. And it?s quite a beauty. The mottled or calico lithic is not something I have seen before. Charl has way more insight on materials and the nuances of types than I do. I hope he will give his opinion too.

Boudreau notes that identification of triangle points is difficult. Grinding is often the key. I don?t remember if you noted grinding on the basal edges. Nor do I recall if you said it was fluted or had deep basal thinning. Fluting would be a game changer.

Those sharply pointed Ears are unique but unhelpful to me. The deep concave base may be indicative of Hardaway Dalton if there is basal grinding.

I have a quartz point that is similar in shape, size, ears and has basal grinding. I?ll post it here as a reference. I have played with the editing to show up the flaking a little better.

I think yours and this one would fit within the Hardaway Dalton Type. Or they could be a transitional variant that falls between Hardaway Dalton and Snappit Points.

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Your point as well as the one I found have strikingly similar characteristics. One of the ears is slightly longer and it almost resembles a worn Dalton point.

My gut is telling me these two points are definitely related in Regards to age and location. This may well be a transitional paleo point. It does fit the bill to be it's own classification between the evolution of Dalton and Snappit points.

Love the quartz.

As far as bassel thinning and fluting. Let's just say it tapers in thickness to the base and does not have the typical pronounced fluting. It does have a small depression on one side that appears to be done on purpose for mounting easier. It's not the definite fluting on both sides. I'm going with one side small flytung a d definite thinning at base. ( More puck below to show)

The Dalton you found earlier this year is different than these points. Snappit are different from these points.

It is almost like Snappit and Dalton had a baby. Therfore it is plausible it's an intermediate peice between the two.

I'm going with that. I may have one more like this not as good quality. Will upload photos shortly.

I think your on your on to something MaMucker.

To say our understanding is complete on identifying points in relation to timeline is complete would be foolish. Ten to twelve thousand years of history.

 

[MAMucker]

There?s a long stretch of time between Dalton and Snappit. There?s no way to confirm any relationship between both. For some reason that time span still remains in the dark.
These odd surface finds will have an asterisk or remain anecdotal for the time being.
If someone insisted that mine is a Snappit or Hardaway Dalton Variant I wouldn?t bother to argue.