BALE SEAL

[DetectoDude]

I found this really nice bale seal at a late 1700s sight, it is in great condition! I was wondering if anyone can help identify the makers mark. Thanks for looking, Rick.

 

[Wayupnorth66]

Re: BAIL SEAL

nice find...what a weird design..wow freaky...looks to me like a pig(maybe a sheep)? with a rope wraped around it

 

[romeo-1]

Re: BAIL SEAL

That is a great early seal!! Iron Patch will come along with some info soon. Nice find!

 

[hammered]

Re: BAIL SEAL

That is a really nice bale seal . As was already said IP,Cru, SS or any of the other Tnet experts should be able to id this for you, but to me the shield design looks early-ish maybe mid to late 1800s, just a guess though.

hammered

 

[JerV3]

That's a great find.

I find them at times but not like that one. Most I find have a initial on it. It looks 1850 may be earlier may be a little later.

HH Jer

 

[jc2]

Thats definitely one of the more unique designs for a lead seal . . . great find . . . you can try this site for help in identifying it . . . http://ourpasthistory.com/Gallery/bagseals?page=1

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Nice looped BAG/Cloth seal
Maybe Spain?
Lead seals such as cloth seals and bale seals were widely used in Europe between the 13th and 19th centuries as a means of identification and as a component of regulation and quality control. Cloth seals appear to be the most thoroughly documented type of seal. Cloth seals were typically two disc seals joined by a connecting strip. These were intended to be folded around each side of a textile and stamped closed, in a manner similar to that in which coins were stamped.



Bale seals such were single disc seals, rather than two disc seals, and were also used to identify textiles, as well as parcels and bales of trade goods. The obverse would typically display a city's arms, and the reverse would record data such as the length or width of fabric or the weight of a parcel.It may be difficult to narrow down where your BAG seal specifically came from. But, if I had to guess, I would say 1600's any way. I have found some of these with ships and cool designs.



Click here for more info and pictures.

http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/baleseals.htm

 

[jdsarasin8194]

looks to me like a ram I think I can see the horns

 

[MaineRelic]

A very unique bale seal in great condition !! Thanks for showing us !! MaineRelic

 

[Deepdiger60]

Nice bale seal that is a wild Spanish bore a symbol of Spain you can see its digging tusk . Dd60

 

[Silver Searcher]

Nice seal I think more a cloth seal than bale :P, the sheap in a sling theme might have something to do with wool producing, I'm looking for a refrence but outhers might have more info also

SS

 

[dank]

nice seal!
musta been bacon in there!

 

[CRUSADER]

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=13777&cat=131
Cloth Seal from Leeds UK. Probably sealed a bundle of woollen cloth from the sheep industry in that area.
Map of where it came from (zoom out to see it better):
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en...code_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CCIQ8gEwAA


Very cool find in great condition

 

[CRUSADER]

That is a really nice bale seal . As was already said IP,Cru, SS or any of the other Tnet experts should be able to id this for you, but to me the shield design looks early-ish maybe mid to late 1800s, just a guess though.

hammered

I recognised to shield (city coat of arms) from the late 18th century tokens

 

[Iron Patch]

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=13777&cat=131
Cloth Seal from Leeds UK. Probably sealed a bundle of woollen cloth from the sheep industry in that area.
Map of where it came from (zoom out to see it better):
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en...code_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CCIQ8gEwAA


Very cool find in great condition

That was my thinking... shipment of wool. It's the same type of seal from our early to mid. 18th century sites. I now have 26 and most are different, and always cool to find.

There is also a possibility that symbol dates way back such as the case for my 18th century seal from Nimes, France. The same design was also on ancient coins.

 

[mainer]

I dont know how old it is, but I like it.

 

[The Patriot]

that is one sweet bale seal...congrats...most likely wool shipments

 

[Silver Searcher]

Although yous seal is similar to the Leeds Coat of arms, it doesn't carry the three five pointed stars above the sheild, that's associated with the coat of arms but as I and outhers have said, there's a obvious Wool theme going on

SS

 

[Iron Patch]

Think this "seals" it. The funny part is I swear I was at this site before looking for the exact same thing, but it sure didn't help in finding it again.

"In the Middle Ages, wool and cloth became a major British export. When tradesmen began issuing tokens in the 17th century, they used images that were easily identifiable as signs of their trade. *****>>>The hanging fleece was a symbol for traders in wool,<<<***** and can also be found in some English coats of arms, e.g., Leeds, Yorkshire County."

http://home.golden.net/~eloker/tok5.htm

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Good reading guys...
Thanks