Been seeing Explorer XSs Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

[~MetalDigger~]

Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

I have been looking at buying a Minelab MD, and was considering a X-terra 70, and also seeing afew Explorer Xs's and was wandering if they are as good a seeker as a X-terra 70, and what would be a good price for a Xs, or 70. Thanks

 

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[Michigan Badger]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

I have been looking at buying a Minelab MD, and was considering a X-terra 70, and also seeing afew Explorer Xs's and was wandering if they are as good a seeker as a X-terra 70, and what would be a good price for a Xs, or 70. Thanks

I'm new to the Explorer line myself so I checked with a dealer and here's what I got from him:

The Minelab Explorer XS in excellent condition (with some minor signs of use but no scratches on the faceplate) is worth about $600. It should also include the instruction manual, NiMH rechargeable battery pack, house battery charger, and alkaline battery holder.

But again, this would be for a near mint machine.

The Explorer II in mint condition runs about $650-$700. The SE about $900.

Minelabs have really improved in resale value lately due to the word getting out about how deep they are and how great the company is about service.

As for how the various Minelabs compare I'll have to leave that to the others here.

Badger

 

[EDDE]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

I have been looking at buying a Minelab MD, and was considering a X-terra 70, and also seeing afew Explorer Xs's and was wandering if they are as good a seeker as a X-terra 70, and what would be a good price for a Xs, or 70. Thanks

I'm new to the Explorer line myself so I checked with a dealer and here's what I got from him:

The Minelab Explorer XS in excellent condition (with some minor signs of use but no scratches on the faceplate) is worth about $600. It should also include the instruction manual, NiMH rechargeable battery pack, house battery charger, and alkaline battery holder.

But again, this would be for a near mint machine.

The Explorer II in mint condition runs about $650-$700. The SE about $900.

Minelabs have really improved in resale value lately due to the word getting out about how deep they are and how great the company is about service.

As for how the various Minelabs compare I'll have to leave that to the others here.

Badger

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[~MetalDigger~]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

Thanks for the heads up on resell value, now how would the x-70 size up to the Explorer xs, or II

 

[johnnyboy25]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

if your not going to nugget hunt get the xs. i swing an xs with sunray probe (a must have.) i purchased used with probe for under $500. the explorers are one of the deepest detectors out there and the xs goes for way cheaper than the 70 (no sunray probe for the x-terra yet either). 28 frequencies versus 1, go with the xs,you won't be disappointed....hh...jb

 

[Ricardo_NY1]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

Not sure about the X-70's performance, but it would definately be considered a step below any of the Explorer machines. Fact is, there is not much of a performance difference between any of the models, simply physical, software and menu revisions, along with slight enhancements in PP'ing and a so called "Pith hold?"with the SE. I'd get the XS any day over an X-terra.

 

[lessthanzero]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

I'd get an X-Terra anyday before I got an XS......how is that for fair and balanced? Gotta LOVE those X-Terra's.

 

[Keppy]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

Lessthanzero...Is right the..X-Terra.. and the..Sovereign ..is better than any ..Explorer..==Jim==

 

[~MetalDigger~]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

Well then from what, I gather if ever a upgrade is needed then it will be a Trex-terra 50-ish. Maybe when I get cloase to my goal which is $1000 with my Ace 250 I can try a minelab.

 

[Willy]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

Think about it.. how many Explorers out in the goldfields? The X70 hasn't been out nearly as long and there are already reports coming in saying that it rivals the dedicated VLF gold detectors. "Oh poo poo, who's interested in subgrain nuggets and I don't nugget-hunt anyway " one might say.. but think about fine gold chains and diamond stud earrings. A detector like the X70 can be detuned to just get coins and pass over the fine stuff, but the BBS/FBS can't be tuned to get that same fine stuff. Regardless of that, one of the best MD'rs I've ever known used a Garrett Scorpion and then a White's 4900d; nothing fancy and he hauled in the goodies. ..Willy.

 

[Keppy]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

Think about it.. how many Explorers out in the goldfields? The X70 hasn't been out nearly as long and there are already reports coming in saying that it rivals the dedicated VLF gold detectors. "Oh poo poo, who's interested in subgrain nuggets and I don't nugget-hunt anyway " one might say.. but think about fine gold chains and diamond stud earrings. A detector like the X70 can be detuned to just get coins and pass over the fine stuff, but the BBS/FBS can't be tuned to get that same fine stuff. Regardless of that, one of the best MD'rs I've ever known used a Garrett Scorpion and then a White's 4900d; nothing fancy and he hauled in the goodies. ..Willy.

...I am sorry but i don't get it? Are you saying that the Scorpion and 4900d are better than the X70 and the ..BBS & FBS ..are better than all of them? Please clear it up for me... ==Jim==

 

[Willy]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

What I'm saying is that it's not all about the detector, it's who's swinging it. For the most part, VLF technology has stagnated for the last few years. Mainly, it's been a regurgitating of the same ol' pap. True, detectors have become lighter, processors faster, but the VLF isn't any deeper.. less so, it seems, in many cases. When I can take a circa 1987 detector and kick modern detector butt with it.. that tells me something. Not only that, when that same ol' detector offers superior discrimination to what I've seen being sold today, one can only wonder. ..Willy.

 

[EDDE]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

Willy always with the tech insight 8)

 

[Ricardo_NY1]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

There are gold specific detector/coil combos out there that are going to be good at the task, but to say that an X-terra is better than an Explorer XS because it might be better at finding a gold flake is incorrect in my opinion. If that holds true, then an X-terra should be as good or better than an Explorer II, which is 98% an XS. Why does an X-terra cost that much less? Why isn't everyone saving themselves big money and buying them as opposed to spending 300-400 more on an Explorer? Overall, the Explorer line is superior to the X-terra line.

 

[~MetalDigger~]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

Plain and simple: You get what you pay for. You spend $100.00 on four new tires for your car, you know what you got, yeah May pops, want last long, or perform, like good year or aqua treads.

 

[Keppy]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

Plain and simple: You get what you pay for. You spend $100.00 on four new tires for your car, you know what you got, yeah May pops, want last long, or perform, like good year or aqua treads.

Your low end detectors ..Minelab ..Garrett.. White's..Tesoro... Will last as long as you top of the detectors all you are paying for is more ..Bell's & Whistle's...As for the $200.00 detector it will last as long as your $1200.00 detector not like tires cheap ones don't last as long as the good ones........................==Jim==

 

[Keppy]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

There are gold specific detector/coil combos out there that are going to be good at the task, but to say that an X-terra is better than an Explorer XS because it might be better at finding a gold flake is incorrect in my opinion. If that holds true, then an X-terra should be as good or better than an Explorer II, which is 98% an XS. Why does an X-terra cost that much less? Why isn't everyone saving themselves big money and buying them as opposed to spending 300-400 more on an Explorer? Overall, the Explorer line is superior to the X-terra line.

You see we all have our own... opinion's & like's...to me the ..X-terra 70 is a better detector than the..Explorer.............That is the reason when you ask what is the best detector you get so many diffrent answers but my self i do think that some models are better than others but we all must.....For we all use diffrent detector's..........We like what work's for ourself best....................................................==Jim==

 

[Willy]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

If I want a heavy, slow sweep detector for coins/rings and deep iron (relics), and have the money/desire, then I might consider an Explorer. If I want a light, fast, relatively inexpensive and easy to use detector that is hot on low conductors, then the XTerra 70 (or various Tesoros) would be my choice. As for the primacy of Explorers.. what a crock of B.S. No detector, that I know of, excels in every situation/location. For every person trumpeting the glories of the Explorers, there's someone (equally as loud) going on about an F75, Tejon, CZ 70, DFX, and they'll also have the 'evidence' anecdotal or otherwise, to back up their claims of superiority. Just because a certain product costs more, doesn't guarantee better performance/quality/value. Anyone that thinks differently is an advertiser's wet dream. As for the XTerra, it 'might find a gold 'flake', depending on the size, but that's not the issue. What I'm talking about is sensitivity to tiny JEWELRY. You know, the small stuff with expensive stones set in them. Things like diamond studs or 18kt gold necklaces that don't have the nice big catch to trigger a detector. There are a number of people that hunt 'micro jewelry', stuff that most detectors have no real chance of finding, with great success. ..Willy.

 

[Keppy]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

If I want a heavy, slow sweep detector for coins/rings and deep iron (relics), and have the money/desire, then I might consider an Explorer. If I want a light, fast, relatively inexpensive and easy to use detector that is hot on low conductors, then the XTerra 70 (or various Tesoros) would be my choice. As for the primacy of Explorers.. what a crock of B.S. No detector, that I know of, excels in every situation/location. For every person trumpeting the glories of the Explorers, there's someone (equally as loud) going on about an F75, Tejon, CZ 70, DFX, and they'll also have the 'evidence' anecdotal or otherwise, to back up their claims of superiority. Just because a certain product costs more, doesn't guarantee better performance/quality/value. Anyone that thinks differently is an advertiser's wet dream. As for the XTerra, it 'might find a gold 'flake', depending on the size, but that's not the issue. What I'm talking about is sensitivity to tiny JEWELRY. You know, the small stuff with expensive stones set in them. Things like diamond studs or 18kt gold necklaces that don't have the nice big catch to trigger a detector. There are a number of people that hunt 'micro jewelry', stuff that most detectors have no real chance of finding, with great success. ..Willy.

.........RIGHT ON......YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD AGAIN..........==jIM==

 

[TomNWMI]

Re: Been seeing Explorer XS's Are they as deep and good a xterra 70

For every post you read claiming their detector (insert CZ, Explorer, DFX.. whatever) ID's a dime at 10" or 12" there are the true posts stating that at max depth you have to go by sound only as TID is useless and then you are digging more trash (usually) iron than coins. It just comes with the territory no getting around it with todays detectors.

Take note all newbies! If you want to reliably dig deep, greater than 8", coins forget TID! I don't own an Explorer or CZ anymore, When I want deep I grab the Advantage with larger than stock coils and dig!

Now as everyone knows there are exceptions and exceptional circumstances but they cannot be layed down as a general rule when stating one detector is better (deeper) than another.

Matching the operational requirments of a detector to your "mentality" (for lack of a better word) is what matters most. Personally I have gotten away from the multi freq machines as they have no advantage in my ground and make me hunt too slow. The digital Fishers and now the ML Xterra series suit my style and yes they find the goodies in a wide variety of conditions when used properly and with the proper coil for conditions. But again, they suit my hunting style best. You will find the most goodies with the detector you use the most!

The last couple years I have not done much land hunting. I am spending most of my time in the water now jewelry hunting. BUT if that were to reverse I definitely would add the T2 to my arsenal. Its the first machine I have ever used that truly opened up old hunted out sites for me. Just look around the net and note how many old time relic hunters have switched to the T2 (and F75) with great praise and success. Ain't it obvious there is something good going on with these machine? if you are brand loyal and choose to close your eyes to whats happening with these machines you are missing out.

Just my personal opinions.

Oh yeah, I forgot... one more thing... IMO the X-70's true virtue, other than its above average performance, is that ML managed to design a detector that makes it easy for a newcomer or occasional user to get the most out of it without the long learning curve. If a person can't get results with the exterras they need to try a different hobby. LOL

Tom