✅ SOLVED Belt plate info. 1808 pattern enlisted man shoulder belt plate

[fishstick]

I found this at an old homesite years ago but I've never been able to find info on how to put a timeframe on it. Any help would be great.

 

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[Whynotnow?]

Looks very old, like a War of 1812 belt plate. Very nice find if so!

 

[Whynotnow?]

War of 1812 cross belt plate

First few hunts of 2020 were nothing special to brag about.I was finding mostly Copper coins, but they were all toast.I was about to pack it in on my last hunt when this awesome war of 1812 cross belt plate pops out of the ground.This is an American 1808 pattern type and certainly made my...

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[fishstick]

That would be awesome if it was one!! How do you date them? Not much War of 1812 stuff here in Indiana but you never know what the next beep will be lol.

 

[fishstick]

With the lead from Hbot37 I was looking at cross shoulder belt plates and I must say they look close.

 

[fyrffytr1]

Depending on its size it could be a Regulation 1808 pattern Enlisted Mans Shoulder Belt plate ca. 1808-1814 if it measures very close to 61 x 87 mm.
If it measures 53 x 71 mm it would be an 1808 pattern but it would date from ca. 1820-1833. There is also one from the same time period that measures 49 x 70 mm.

 

[fishstick]

Depending on its size it could be a Regulation 1808 pattern Enlisted Mans Shoulder Belt plate ca. 1808-1814 if it measures very close to 61 x 87 mm.
If it measures 53 x 71 mm it would be an 1808 pattern but it would date from ca. 1820-1833. There is also one from the same time period that measures 49 x 70 mm.

It's the 49 x 70 mm one !!!! Holy cow!!! Would've NEVER thgt it, THX fyrffytrl for the great info!!!!

 

[Whynotnow?]

It's the 49 x 70 mm one !!!! Holy cow!!! Would've NEVER thgt it, THX fyrffytrl for the great info!!!!

Thats a really good find!

 

[fishstick]

I'm blown away to say the least!!!!

 

[fyrffytr1]

Yours is plate 79 on page 58 0f "American Military Belt PLates" by Michael J. O'Donnell & J. Duncan Campbell. Coincidentally I found Plate 80 on page 59 earlier this spring in south Georgia.

 

[fishstick]

That would be a great book to own!! Could you post pics of the both of them? Would luv to see them!!!

 

[fishstick]

I'm still shocked at it being military and it's age. Never dreamed I would've found as much military stuff here in Indiana as I have when I started swinging!!! This hobby is the best!!!!!!!!!

 

[fyrffytr1]

here are the two plates. Sorry, yours is a little blurry. For some reason I could not get a sharp picture of the page.

 

[fishstick]

Those look great!!!! Thank you so much for posting them, Yours looks awesome.

 

[fyrffytr1]

Those look great!!!! Thank you so much for posting them, Yours looks awesome.

The guys I hunt with say the buckle is only a couple years older than me.