Buckle?

[joe_dirt]

I dug this today. It looks similar to some other examples of buckles I've seen. So is this a buckle or something else? If it is, any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

[DoranHashemi]

Could be a small shoe buckle

 

[Whatacoin]

Could be a small shoe buckle

I would have to agree on the idea that its a shoe buckle. Seems about the size.

 

[Bryanhashemi]

yes ..i would agree shoebuckle

 

[joe_dirt]

Thanks for the replies. I thought it might be something like a small shoe buckle but I didn't know about it to be sure.

If anyone could give an estimate as to age range I'd appreciate it.

 

[DoranHashemi]

My guess and it is a guess is a colonial kids shoe buckle. Late 1700's to early 1800's. I could def be wrong though. Google colonial shoe buckles and you'll see a lot similar to yours

 

[joe_dirt]

Thanks everyone for the replies.

It's a double looped buckle, not a shoe buckle.

SS

Thanks SS, do you have an idea on possible age?

 

[CRUSADER]

Pretty sure that development in the central bar didn't happen until post-1900, & as SS states its not a shoe buckle, probably a ladies sash buckle.

 

[joe_dirt]

Pretty sure that development in the central bar didn't happen until post-1900, & as SS states its not a shoe buckle, probably a ladies sash buckle.

Thanks for the reply Crusader, I appreciate the info. Slowly the mundane nature of my find is coming to light. :-)

 

[bigfoot1]

to me it looks stamped,simplistic and utilitarian.missing pin prolly softer/thinner and first to degrade or break.Size indicates chin,bag,strap etc.Even sports equipment possible.Just my 2 cents.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Note that the buckle has flat "flanges" on both sides of the middle of its central bar (not just a groove), to keep the tongue pin from sliding off-center. I've never seen that characteristic on any buckle from earlier than the very-late 1800s. So unless somebody can show us one with the same characteristic which is definitely earlier than that time-period, I'm in agreement with Crusader... it is from no earlier than the "Turn-of-the-Century," and is probably later than that.

 

[joe_dirt]

Note that the buckle has flat "flanges" on both sides of the middle of its central bar (not just a groove), to keep the tongue pin from sliding off-center. I've never seen that characteristic on any buckle from earlier than the very-late 1800s. So unless somebody can show us one with the same characteristic which is definitely earlier than that time-period, I'm in agreement with Crusader... it is from no earlier than the "Turn-of-the-Century," and is probably later than that.

Thanks, you guys know your stuff so I'm sure you're correct. At this rate a few more replies and I'll be told it's some sort of glorified pulltab. :-P

 

[Bryanhashemi]

Good job crusader !

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Silver Searcher wrote:
> Has anybody said it's from a earlier date range?

You did.

In this discussion's post #8, the buckle's finder (Joe Dirt) asked "Thanks SS, do you have an idea on possible age?"

In post #9, you replied "They can date from the 17thC but yours looks to be in the 18thC range."

(For any reader here who doesn't already know, the 18th-Century is the 1700s.)

 

[HutSiteDigger]

I was going too say last night I thought this buckle was in the 1840s too 1920s range. I have dug similar ones around house sites @ that date frame.

 

[joe_dirt]

I was going too say last night I thought this buckle was in the 1840s too 1920s range. I have dug similar ones around house sites @ that date frame.

Thanks for the input. The area was the site of an 18th century farmhouse and it was occupied until fairly recently, so your range could certainly work.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Sarcasm? I answered your question by saying simply "You did" and quoting your words. Therefore, I can only assume you are referring to the info about the correct meaning of the term "18th-Century" at the end of my post.

Because I've taught History to students (and other people), I know that a LOT of them are confused by terms like 12th-century and 19th-Century. They assume that because the term begins with a number, like 19, the years it represents also begin with 19. So, as an Educator, I sometimes include "clarifying" information for those people in my internet posts.. which I know are read by a very diverse group of readers. Please take my word for it that the clarifying information was NOT meant as sarcasm directed at you. I would not do such as thing. I respect you highly for your many Educational contributions to this forum. I've even said so, publicly, in some posts.

 

[bigfoot1]

SS...that would be a shame.You are one of the reasons I joined and became active here.You have affected more than you know....and in a positive way..please reconsider


pat

 

[joe_dirt]

SS...that would be a shame.You are one of the reasons I joined and became active here.You have affected more than you know....and in a positive way..please reconsider

pat

Agreed!

 

[HutSiteDigger]

I must have missed those posts...I will not reply anymore on this thread and clutter it up, and I will remove my posts, and this one later. And leave the whatsits forum to those that know better...I have better things to do.

Its all good SS no need too leave because of the time frame thingy! happens too me and everyone else. U can ID it correctly but getting the time frame right lot of people even experts mess up!