buffalo spear head? found in sioux land

[biggoldy]

 

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[arthur mac]

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hey, good morning looks like what you have is a superb example of a hand knife / scraper for working a large land mammal hide ,most likely for preparing hide for preservation, [scraping the fat off].

 

[larson1951]

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that is nice
what does the other side look like?
if you don't mind me asking, what part of the country is it from?
i am from north dakota, lots of sioux territory here
it looks like big knife or scraper to me but not for a spear
but i am not sure

i tend to agree with arthur mac

 

[biggoldy]

It is from just below big coolee. There is a thick gulch north of the rez was found where land plained out at bottom. I am actually a member of the big coolee district of oyate and elders said it could have been a scraper like u say. I dunno it is pretty much a perfect point bout only 1/4 inch thick and tapered to point that's y I think it was some sort weapon most scrapers I've seen don't have that kind of craftsmanship.

 

[natchitoches]

welcome to tnet biggoldy

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Looks like a really nice knife..... Knives have some really nice knapping to them, just as nice as any spear point. Too large to be a spear point in my opinion....

Great find!

 

[biggoldy]

So I do custom fencing in the hills in glacial lake region. And recently I came across what looked like a fire pit with bigger rocks placed in about a 4 ft circle. What was weird was that it was in a slough that dried up in the drought probably been under water for many years and near the fire pit there was bigger rocks placed in a row about 30-50 ft long. It wasn't done by settlers I'm certain. What would they mark like that. Pretty sure not a burial.

 

[larson1951]

It is from just below big coolee. There is a thick gulch north of the rez was found where land plained out at bottom. I am actually a member of the big coolee district of oyate and elders said it could have been a scraper like u say. I dunno it is pretty much a perfect point bout only 1/4 inch thick and tapered to point that's y I think it was some sort weapon most scrapers I've seen don't have that kind of craftsmanship.

my wife is a registered member of the rez you live at
Chief Blue Dog (Sunkatoiciye) is her great great grandfather

for you Tnetters Oyate (o-ya-tay) means "our people"

larson1951

 

[biggoldy]

Oh ya I know some blue dogs actually. A Guy who works with me has half sisters that are daughters of Kurt blue dog probably cousins to ur wife

 

[NC field hunter]

So I do custom fencing in the hills in glacial lake region. And recently I came across what looked like a fire pit with bigger rocks placed in about a 4 ft circle. What was weird was that it was in a slough that dried up in the drought probably been under water for many years and near the fire pit there was bigger rocks placed in a row about 30-50 ft long. It wasn't done by settlers I'm certain. What would they mark like that. Pretty sure not a burial.

I have heard that (in my area) the natives would barrie their tools for a certain region, then stack lots and lots of stones on top of the spot. Doesn't sound like a good way to hide them to me, but I have heard that is what they did. You think it could have been a dam or fish weir of sorts??

 

[larson1951]

Oh ya I know some blue dogs actually. A Guy who works with me has half sisters that are daughters of Kurt blue dog probably cousins to ur wife

my mother in law was Harriet Blue Dog......she was very very nice

 

[larson1951]

Oh ya I know some blue dogs actually. A Guy who works with me has half sisters that are daughters of Kurt blue dog probably cousins to ur wife

probably so
i think Blue Dog lake is named after Sunkatoiyice also, right?

 

[11KBP]

buffalo spear head? found in sioux land

The ovate shape, thickness and workmanship suggests a knife form, definitely not a spear.

 

[biggoldy]

I don't think so it is in a bottom between hills I assume maybe they had a camp there of some sort. I didn't want to mess w it much cause I thaught maybe was a burial. Very interesting though. There were a lot of Sioux around here for at least 9000 years I just think its interesting.

 

[biggoldy]

I am not sure I know there was a man who lived on lake who's name was something like dog who paints himself blue. I don't know if that was the chief or not.

 

[RGINN]

Cool find. Looks similar to some of the hoe blades I've found, but the shape is slightly different.

 

[11KBP]

There were a lot of Sioux around here for at least 9000 years I just think its interesting.

9000 years in the Dakotas?

11KBP

 

[biggoldy]

They found a man in browns valley dated back 9-10000 years they found him in gravel they were using for road. Also they found Clovis points in the gravel. In my opinion there have been around a lot longer. The ancient glacier lake agazis southern tip was northeast SD. They find artifacts where the shoreline used to be from a different tribe definitely not Sioux.

 

[pickaway]

Nicce big ole blade. North blade?

 

[Dark Antiquity]

Yeah it really does have the Hopewell/North Blade look to it, but seems a little too far west?