Bullet I just found in the woods

[Bramblefind]

Can anyone help me with some information on it?

Thanks!

 

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[hammered]

Hi, I think I've seen this type of bullet before on Tnet and if I'm right it is a type of wadcutter. The Tnet experts will correct me if I am wrong.

hammered

 

[TiredIron]

Scaling it from the dime.....it looks like a modern 45 cal muzzle loader projectile. The Buffalo Bullet Company produced one like this I believe. They are now defunct.

http://www.three-peaks.net/bullet_molds.htm
Here is a chart I'd like people to look at just to get a point across about how many different types of modern bullet mold designs there are (and this isn't all of them). Some resemble original 1700-1800 styles and some are completely unique. When we ask for an "exact diameter measurement and weight"
its to make an accurate determination and not to be difficult or a wise arse. One or two pictures next to a dime or in someones hand doesn't give us much to go on....other than to make a wild guess.
Jus Saying.....

 

[Bramblefind]

No problem I have only posted bullets here once before and they were pretty straight forward IDs. I really know very little about them and haven't read many threads about them but I do apologize for not providing all the needed specs.

It looks to be 11 mm in diameter at the base and weighs 16 grams. The bottom is flat.

I checked out the chart you linked and I can't make sense of the weights to compare?

eta.. and it is about 16mm long.

 

[TiredIron]

That would convert to roughly .433 inches and 247 grains........that gets us closer. A bullet that short and that light starts to sound like its for a pistol......although it would certainly work in a rifle. It still looks fairly modern to me.
"Hammered's" chart is close.....this one would fall under "Semi-Wad Cutter Style".
Thats about all I got.......

 

[Bramblefind]

Ah I had just put it together and was googling "how many grains in a gram"

Thanks for your help.

 

[dick99344]

Scaling it from the dime.....it looks like a modern 45 cal muzzle loader projectile. The Buffalo Bullet Company produced one like this I believe. They are now defunct.

http://www.three-peaks.net/bullet_molds.htm
Here is a chart I'd like people to look at just to get a point across about how many different types of modern bullet mold designs there are (and this isn't all of them). Some resemble original 1700-1800 styles and some are completely unique. When we ask for an "exact diameter measurement and weight"
its to make an accurate determination and not to be difficult or a wise arse. One or two pictures next to a dime or in someones hand doesn't give us much to go on....other than to make a wild guess.
Jus Saying.....

Hello TiredIron- The Hornady Bullet Co. made one similar to this. They called it a Great Plains bullet. I haven't seen one from them for quite some time. I include a photo of a typical Buffalo Bullet Company .50 Cal. conical here. I have several hundred of these waiting to make the remelt bucket, I never did like them much. Note the oxidation as it developed while they were still in the box. It weighs 385 grains. It measures .505 at the base and .510 at the top band and is .870 long. The base is smaller to aid in bullet starting. It is hollow point and has a hollow base. The Buffalo Bullets had that characteristic crosshatch pattern, it was said to help make the lube adhere better to it, wrong!! The pattern is difficult to see because of the oxidation. HH

 

[TiredIron]

Dick, Your Cross Hatched Conical was one of many styles Buffalo Bullet made before they focused on their Sabot line....then out of business. I never had good luck with the Cross Hatched either. I found them to lead terribly. The "Buffalo Arms" bullet company also had a long line of modern conicals. One could honestly publish a small book with all the companies that have manufactured different styles, designs, and weights....of post 1900 bullets.

 

[Bramblefind]

Not sure if this extra info. will help or not but I did have to dig fairly deep to get this bullet. In the same area I also found these two slugs - they are about 15-18mm diameter.

 

[Bramblefind]

I should also add I found some obviously modern bullets too - they were much nearer the ground surface - 5 marked "PMC 9mm Luger".

And two shotgun shell ends - I misplaced one right now but one reads "Western Super X".

 

[buddyb]

What is the vintage on the crosshatch bullet? I found one recently and wasn't even sure that it was a bullet until I saw this post. I see that Hornady currently makes one that is similar.

 

[Bramblefind]

I just got back from the same site and I found some more bullets -

these both weigh 14 grams, 11 mm base (flat) and 15 mm long

these all weigh 9 grams and are about 11 mm across.

 

[dick99344]

I just got back from the same site and I found some more bullets -

these both weigh 14 grams, 11 mm base (flat) and 15 mm long

these all weigh 9 grams and are about 11 mm across.

The top ones are conical. 216 grains at .433 inches in dia. They are a bit large for .40 Cal and a bit small for .44 Cal. My guess (Since we do not have the weapon for examination) would be .43 caliber. The bottom ones are round balls at 139 grains at .433 Cal. If these were found in the same space, they may have been fired from the same weapon assuming a black powder weapon was used. My .44 cal round balls at .454 weigh 141.6 grains. I have .44 cal conicals at 250 grains at .451 inches in dia. My conicals are cast from a Lyman mould. Hope this puts them in the ball park. All we can do is make an educated estimate. HH

 

[dick99344]

What is the vintage on the crosshatch bullet? I found one recently and wasn't even sure that it was a bullet until I saw this post. I see that Hornady currently makes one that is similar.

I purchased them 15 years ago.HH

 

[Bramblefind]

Thank you!

 

[Monty]

A modern .44 caliber bullet is actually cast and sized at .429" for some reason. I suppose the old bullets had conical bases and were .429 for easy loading, but the bases would expanded on firing. Sounds like a reasonable assumption. Monty

 

[turtlefoot13]

Here is one similar to yours in 50 cal. It has the grease in the grooves in the pic.

http://www.eabco.com/cgi-bin/shopper.exe?preadd=action&key=207-7885

Doug

 

[Bramblefind]

Here is one similar to yours in 50 cal. It has the grease in the grooves in the pic.

http://www.eabco.com/cgi-bin/shopper.exe?preadd=action&key=207-7885

Doug

that does look a lot like it!

 

[dick99344]

Here is one similar to yours in 50 cal. It has the grease in the grooves in the pic.

http://www.eabco.com/cgi-bin/shopper.exe?preadd=action&key=207-7885

Doug

that does look a lot like it!

This bullet is a nasty killer. It will expand like you would not believe. They range from .45 Cal up to .58 Cal. I shot a deer with one (.54 cal, 430 grain) just behind the shoulder blade from about 60 yards out. It left a wound channel in it I could put my fist into. I have been trying to find the recovered bullet so I could post it but so far it has eluded me. The bullet nearly turned itself inside out. It is considered a hollow point. HH

 

[Monty]

After further review I think it is solved. A 50 cal TC Maxiball. Fairly modern bullet. Monty