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[Tigerdude]

Found today. Very fragile . Since I rarely find buttons , any idea?

 

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[G.A.P.metal]

I think it might be a Confederate Cavalry button ....does it have a back mark ?
Your button C is facing up .

 

[G.A.P.metal]

Tice`s book... Uniform Buttons of the United States 1776-1865
CSC215As2 13.5 mm or CSC218As2 13.5 mm the back mark will tell which one you have .
Gary

 

[Tigerdude]

Unfortunately, I can't make out the back mark. I'm surprise its in the condition it's in given Louisiana wet soil.

 

[G.A.P.metal]

Hey man either way it`s Confederate Cavalry Most Civil War Relic hunters would flip over that find you made .
Gary

 

[G.A.P.metal]

Backmarks will be on the CSC215 "TREBLE RICH / STANDARD"
The CSC218 will be ".WM BIRD&CO/LONDON"
Maybe you can pick out a couple of letters ?

 

[Tigerdude]

I am fired up. I found it within a permitted of 10 feet with 6 scattered round balls with a diameter of roughly .51-.53.

 

[G.A.P.metal]

Confederate buttons are rare... thought the Civil War guys would be all over this one .
Gary

 

[relic nut]

The Calvary button still eludes me. That's a great find! Anything Confederate, in any condition is a great save. Congratulations!
Go back and check, may be more.

HH, RN

 

[Davers]

Confederate buttons are rare... thought the Civil War guys would be all over this one .
Gary

Just seen this one Gary & I'm- a Flippin.

Funny I'd 'dyslexic' I read your post as 'Thought the Civil War Guys would be flippin over this one.

I'm on it !

 

[Davers]

I agree relic nut. An awesome find .
All Calvary US or CS have eluded me Esp, since I found a Mostly Virgin Calvary 'US' Camp years Back.

 

[Davers]

Found today. Very fragile . Since I rarely find buttons , any idea? View attachment 1517468

Yo Tigerdude SWEET! Find esp, in a small area with the 54, round Balls.
Will make a nice display indeed.

I should have a better office (don't have my button book in front of me) you got a Script C , or a Manuscript C.
Think Script.
But
I'd take either, & in any shape , you has nice dug condition , I don't see any pushes in the Face , just some rim flaking.

"I" would not try to clean it much more as you said it's fragile, does it have a Tin -Back or Iron possibly?
Is there a shank?
Not sure if there was a Local 'Tin-back' of this size / type button.
Always possible.

That's a banner find in my book & pretty rare these days 150+ years later.

I'm one to ask for pictures , lol
but Could you post a pic, of the Back side.

Either way ...awesome, Western Theater too.

 

[Tigerdude]

Here is the backside. I posted some other things I found just a few feet further. Two enfields, roundballs and looks like two swordhangers

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Since Davers and probably you are interested in what your button's back can tell us about its specific identity... your photo shows it has the classic civil war era British-made "tire" loop (meaning, very nearly a perfect circle sitting on the button's back). The majority of the Confederate-imported Old English Script letter buttons were made by Smith, Kemp, & Wright of Birmingham England.

 

[Tigerdude]

I have a friend who has considerably more knowledge about this than meet. He thinks it might be a confederate "E" engineers button. Check out the 3 photos.

 

[G.A.P.metal]

He could be right !

 

[Davers]

Since Davers and probably you are interested in what your button's back can tell us about its specific identity... your photo shows it has the classic civil war era British-made "tire" loop (meaning, very nearly a perfect circle sitting on the button's back). The majority of the Confederate-imported Old English Script letter buttons were made by Smith, Kemp, & Wright of Birmingham England.

Thanks for the info.

Kinda like my blank 'brass' back Script 'I' that I found months ago ( but missing it's shank).

Do you think he may have an Engineers Button? It looks close.

 

[Davers]

View attachment 1518090 I have a friend who has considerably more knowledge about this than meet. He thinks it might be a confederate "E" engineers button. Check out the 3 photos. View attachment 1518085 View attachment 1518086

They are very similar , but different (could be the Casting?) the (what I'm calling the new Moon crest on the left ,comes up further on the 'E' & the (Half Moon) atop the letter is a bit deeper on the 'C' as is on your button , do you think the 'mark' coming off the 'line' that would make it an 'E' is def, part of the design or just damage ? Even caused when the button was made?

Either way you win lol. I would think the 'E' is rarer than the 'C' tho I'm not positive.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

It is an E (Confederate Engineer), and it is MUCH rarer than the C version. Congratulations. Banner find.

 

[relic nut]

Wow! Just went from a great find to a fantastic find! I agree... Banner

HH, RN