Button ID

[jefg231]

Dug this button today. Appears to be copper and cone shaped. About half inch. Items found in the area were rev and civil war era. Please provide any info on this type of button. Thanks

 

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[HutSiteDigger]

Here is the same button someone posted in "What Is It" thread ... http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/388465-button-old-home-site-how-old.html#post3716255

CannonBallGuy one of TreasureNets experts on projectiles and buttons said the following: The United Kingdom Detector Finds Database shows your "conical" 1-piece brass button (and info about it) here:
UK Database finds:
The UKDFD says it dates from the mid-1600s to mid-1800s. In my opinion, it doesn't date back to the 1600s, because the brass wire loop is soldered/brazed onto the button's back. I haven't seen any other 1600s buttons with that form of loop attachment. I've read in several books on Historical buttons that "early" button-makers had serious trouble getting a soldered/brazed loop to stay LONG-LASTINGLY attached, a problem which wasn't reliably solved until the second half of the 1700s. But perhaps there is proof somewhere that such buttons from the 1600s do exist. If so, I hope somebody here will post the proof (with details), so we can all learn about it. Meanwhile, until I see the rock-solid proof, my opinion is that your button dates from the latter-1700s through the early-1800s. The fact that it is a dug one whose loop is still quite firmly attached indicates it was made after the soldered/brazed loop attachment problem was reliably solved.
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I also stated on that thread this button style was worn a-lot during the 1820s-1830s (andrew jackson era)

 

[CRUSADER]

I've seen this type on 19th C British Military buttons

 

[HutSiteDigger]

I've seen this type on 19th C British Military buttons

Yah i was just looking @ some of my dads artifacts yesterday and noticed he had these buttons that he found in civil war camps... I have only found these in 1820s-1830s type sites...

 

[HomeGuardDan]

These are colonial era cone buttons (mid 1700s) but could be much earlier based on the shank attachment. The Spanish wore cone buttons like this in the late 1600's and into the early 1700s. It is a civilian button dating to the 18th century.

Dan

 

[CRUSADER]

These are colonial era cone buttons (mid 1700s) but could be much earlier based on the shank attachment. The Spanish wore cone buttons like this in the late 1600's and into the early 1700s. It is a civilian button dating to the 18th century.

Dan

I have now dug out a few of mine, & we have had no Spanish finds in my area, so I don't think they are Spanish & not earlier than 18th C (I agree this one could be). Even though the design was still in use in the 19th.

 

[Iron Patch]

I have now dug out a few of mine, & we have had no Spanish finds in my area, so I don't think they are Spanish & not earlier than 18th C (I agree this one could be). Even though the design was still in use in the 19th.

Based on my experience here I can say with a pretty high degree of certainty they did not go into the 19th century. I think 1600s and into the 18th century is probably right.

 

[CRUSADER]

Based on my experience here I can say with a pretty high degree of certainty they did not go into the 19th century. I think 1600s and into the 18th century is probably right.

Looking at my examples, 1600s for this type is not likely, I agree with 18th, but like I said they used this method into the 19th

 

[Iron Patch]

Looking at my examples, 1600s for this type is not likely, I agree with 18th, but like I said they used this method into the 19th

if that's the case i would have dug at least one in the last 14 years. I assume you're basing your info. on gut feeling? ....where as I am basing mine on actual dated sites, and of course it's easy for me to do that because my British ones only go back to about 1760, and that would be very old for here. So I would call that button mid. 1700s at the latest, but couldn't really say how early because I am familiar with them, but have nothing to go by. I have the book by Tice, might take a look later and see if it shows them.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Here is the same button someone posted in "What Is It" thread ... http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/388465-button-old-home-site-how-old.html#post3716255

CannonBallGuy one of TreasureNets experts on projectiles and buttons said the following: The United Kingdom Detector Finds Database shows your "conical" 1-piece brass button (and info about it) here:
UK Database finds:
The UKDFD says it dates from the mid-1600s to mid-1800s. In my opinion, it doesn't date back to the 1600s, because the brass wire loop is soldered/brazed onto the button's back. I haven't seen any other 1600s buttons with that form of loop attachment. I've read in several books on Historical buttons that "early" button-makers had serious trouble getting a soldered/brazed loop to stay LONG-LASTINGLY attached, a problem which wasn't reliably solved until the second half of the 1700s. But perhaps there is proof somewhere that such buttons from the 1600s do exist. If so, I hope somebody here will post the proof (with details), so we can all learn about it. Meanwhile, until I see the rock-solid proof, my opinion is that your button dates from the latter-1700s through the early-1800s. The fact that it is a dug one whose loop is still quite firmly attached indicates it was made after the soldered/brazed loop attachment problem was reliably solved.
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I also stated on that thread this button style was worn a-lot during the 1820s-1830s (andrew jackson era)

Here you go...as the date is circa 1700's that dates from January 1st 1601.
UK Finds Database - - - UKDFD

SS

 

[Silver Searcher]

It's obvious that this was once a three piece button, with soldered/braised shank, which do date circa 17th C.. or 1601 onwards.

SS