Can anyone tell me what this coin is?

[The Buzzard King]

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[junkdigger]

My book goes back to only 1800,but to me your coin looks like it is from Iran.

 

[Gunner]

Whatever it is it has been heavily tooled (notably around the "lion"). Looks like a modern copy of an ancient greek silver coin or an authentic ancient greek coin that has been tooled beyond recognition.

Gunner

 

[PBK]

Seems reminiscent of this coin, although there are clearly differences. Perhaps it is simply a variant; or, as Gunner suggests, it may be a modern piece modeled on an authentic ancient coin. I suspect the latter.

Babylonian tetradrachm, Sear 6142v. Baal std. l. with scepter/Lion walking l., gamma above.

 

[PBK]

Another coin of fairly similar design. Note the inscription above the lion:

Cilicia, Myriandros. Mazaios, Satrap of Cilicia. 361/0-334 BC. AR stater. Baaltars seated left, holding scepter; eagle on thymiaterion to left / Lion standing left on ground.

 

[Subgenius5150]

i think the lion is walking on the eagle... maybe it is like a political cartoon of the early empires...

 

[PBK]

As I said, "...there are clearly differences. Perhaps it is simply a variant; or, as Gunner suggests, it may be a modern piece modeled on an authentic ancient coin. I suspect the latter."

I believe that there are definite, and by no means coincidental, points of comparison between the coin posted by The Buzzard King and those which I posted. Perhaps someone else can find an identical example.

Here are the full attributions/descriptions and their sources:

"B2817. BABYLONIA, BABYLON, 328-311 BC. Tetradrachm, Sear 6142v. Baal std. l. with scepter/Lion walking l., gamma above. VF. Fine old cabinet toning. Wonderful lion far superior in style to the Sear example. $500 estimate."
http://www.edgarlowen.com/a44cg.html

"SNGFr_431 Cilicia, Myriandros. Mazaios, Satrap of Cilicia. 361/0-334 BC. AR Stater. Baaltars seated left, holding scepter; eagle on thymiaterion to left / Lion standing left on ground. SNG France 431."
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/cilicia/satraps/mazaios/

The following coin, not previously posted, might also be of interest:

"Lot number: 828
Price realized: 910 USD
Lot description:
CILICIA, Myriandros. Mazaios, satrap of Cilicia. 361/0-334 BC. AR Stater (10.21 g, 4h). Baaltars seated left, holding lotus tipped sceptre in right hand; club to left / Lion standing left; Aramaic M in exergue. SNG France -; SNG Levante 186 corr. (same dies). Good VF, lightly toned. Very rare with club.
See J.D. Bing, 'Reattribution of the "Myriandrus" Alexanders: the Case for Issus' AJN 1 (1989), for an alternative attribution of the Myriandros series to the mint of Issos.
Estimate: $1000."
http://www.coinarchives.com/a/results.php?results=100&search=Issos

 

[Subgenius5150]

maybe its an early atempt at forgery cause it does look alot like the CILICIA...

 

[PBK]

The descriptions are not mine, but those of the numismatists who cataloged the coins. Here's yet another, this time with the "eagle" attribution again:

"F624: CILICIA Myriandros. Mazaios, Satrap of Cilicia. 361-334 B.C.: AR stater (20mm, 10.29 g). Baaltars seated left, holding sceptre; eagle on thymiaterion to left. / Lion standing left on ground. SNG Paris 432. VF Ex Lindren collection."
http://www.ancient-coins.com/shop/agora.cgi?&user3=F624

 

[PBK]

I never implied the descriptions were yours. In fact, I went to some length to point that out, didn't I ?

I don't believe we're in disagreement about that. I just wanted to make clear exactly where the information was coming from, in case someone might find it a bit contradictory or confusing. I used blue text for the quotes and added links for the same reason.

 

[diggummup]

Another coin of fairly similar design. Note the inscription above the lion:

Cilicia, Myriandros. Mazaios, Satrap of Cilicia. 361/0-334 BC. AR stater. Baaltars seated left, holding scepter; eagle on thymiaterion to left / Lion standing left on ground.

I see Baaltars seated with a scepter but what represents the eagle on Thymiaterion ??

Doc,it looks like a bird (eagle presumably) perched on top of the Thymaterion,to the left of the sceptor. A little hard to see.Although it looks small for an eagle,perhaps not.I see a lotus on top the sceptor.

 

[blurr]

So what do you think doc? Real or not?

John

 

[blurr]

I think might could be a copy. Really need hands on inspection but that would be my initial reaction based on the other fine examples of similar period coins posted by PBK. Detail appears just a little too thick.
Your turn.
Doc

Doc,

I would have to agree. Although, I am definately not a huge coin guy. Hey, we CAN agree once in a while.

John

 

[blurr]

It's a wonderful world after all

Tell me what made you think it was a copy, O.K.?

Doc
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Like I said, I'm no coin expert. My reason would be the detail is fairly sharp and is raised quite sharply. I don't know for sure, just my thoughts.

John