Cap Pin: 4 M Crossed Cannons

[steelheadwill]

Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

Hi all
got a few more relics from the mud..
I can't identify the cap pin, I found a pre 1925 Eagle Globe and Anchor pin in the same area previously, can anyone ID this for me
Penny size flat button shown for reference.
Round Pewter mirror frame,(in three pieces), a couple spoons & 45-70 slugs.
Pewter tankard handle,
Pewter saucer, Buddha & stork, he's throwing or catching something, can't tell what it is, on the bottom is a landscape and fireworks in the sky.
A twice shot lock, definitely not a Master
HH all! Thanks for looking

 

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[HISPAN]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

Hi Herbie !
nice Crossed Cannons ,is in very good conditions , I also like Chinese pewter plate.
H

 

[Newt]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

Very cool cannon pin! I'd love to find one of those.

Newt

 

[CMDiamonddawg]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

Great hunt Herbie 8) 8) cap insignia is possibly Fourth Heavy Artillery Regiment , Company M , from NY State . The crossed cannons was adopted by the US government for use as the insignia for its artillery in 1836. During the year of 1858, artillery enlisted men began to wear the insignia on their caps. Their company letter was to be placed below the brass pin. The one you dug has no brass pin , soo must be post war . This insignia is still in use today.
maybe the Budda is throwing out good luck dawg

 

[artzstuff1]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

Nice stuff!!! ,,,,the spoon king strkes again!!!

 

[creskol]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

I am guessing that with the screw-type attachment device, the crossed cannons are WWI or later. Nice grouping of goodies!

 

[RFrady]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

I was thinking it was post-1902 era because of the method of attachment.

 

[aquachigger]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

Very cool stuff. The crossed cannons are very sweet indeed!

 

[Lucky13]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

some nice stuff,Really like those spoons

 

[allen]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

I love that 4M pin !!

 

[steelheadwill]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

Thanks All,
Though all CW Badges I see use wire back attachments, I can find little reference to
4th Artillery after 1865
Here's a screw back pin from Indian Wars 1870s

 

[sgratrider]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

Well done. There is some nice detail in those finds.

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

Love those spoons Herbie!

The Crossed Cannons Artillery Regiment pin is really interesting!

Dave

 

[JW15]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

Nice pulls!!! Some nice detail there!

 

[{Sentinel}]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

That's a Terrific Crossed Cannons Insignia Badge buddy, Congrats! It probably dates to the late 1800s-early 1900s but would be a VERY welcome piece in my collection. Awesome find my friend

 

[steelheadwill]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

Good to hear from everyone..
The Cannons badge was a surface find
I've dug lots of those spoons with the geometric patterns,
never could read the makers mark until I dug another yesterday,
They are 'Sheffields', odd how the front detail remains on most,
but the makers were unreadable
HH all! Headed into the ghost town at first light for some coins!

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

Those crossed cannons are amazing!

Nice recoveries Herbie

 

[steelheadwill]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

thanks Mike,
The items I find setting on the surface amaze me, this one held up good, it was face down, the upper side always degrades faster.
HH to you!
I saw your article in the Minelab 'Success Stories' folder, good stuff!
Congrats

 

[BobinSouthVA]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

Wow what a great bunch of finds. The mirror frame is cool.

It could be a Lotus flower that is hovering above the Buddha's hand

 

[steelheadwill]

Re: Cap Pin: '4 M' Crossed Cannons

Wow what a great bunch of finds. The mirror frame is cool.

It could be a Lotus flower that is hovering above the Buddha's hand

Thanks Bob & rtde3,
great tip on the flower, I know the lotus held a special significance with Bhuddist stuff, these oriental deco items were popular in the last part of the 19th century.
Great Digs All