✅ SOLVED Civil War Rosette???

[Erving]

I don't know very much about Civil War relics, and was wondering if this rosette I found was from the Civil War. I would appreciate any input you might have. Thanks!



Doing a little research, I found one that looks like a match. It's the 7th photo down. I would like to hear what the ones with Civil War knowlege here think. Thanks

http://www.usmilitaryrelicsandaccoutrements.com/dug_relics.html

 

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[creskol]

Yes, it is a rosette .. Civil War related? .. well .. that depends on who you ask, but most of the rosettes like that are thought to be post war.

 

[gsxraddict]

Yes, civil war or ealier great find...

 

[creskol]

Yes, civil war or ealier great find...

It has an iron back .. not earlier than the Civil War, and probably post war. Most prior to and during the war were solder/lead backed. This particular heart rosette has been the subject of debate here and elsewhere many times.

 

[gsxraddict]

It has an iron back .. not earlier than the Civil War, and probably post war. Most prior to and during the war were solder/lead backed. This particular heart rosette has been the subject of debate here and elsewhere many times.

Most had a lead back, not all. This one doesn't have the thick rim which has been pointed out is older than the other heart shaped rosettes.

 

[creskol]

Just as a point of interest, the first person to hold a patent on this construction was George Zahn, issued in 1886, described as. "a body-plate of heavy and cheap sheet metal, such as iron-in which indentations producing the desired design are struck by suitable dies with an outer coveringplate of a better or more ornamental metal or material such as brass-and one thinner than the body-plate, to more perfectly partake of the desired design. This is struck up in the same dies as the body-plate, so that when the two are placed together the indentations and projections of the two plates coincide, and the outer plate has a close bearing over its whole surface on the inner and stronger plate, whereby the outer plate, though of very thin metal, and though it has raised ornaments on its surface, cannot easily be indented or bent, and thus injured."

 

[DigIron2]

great find

 

[Erving]

Thanks for the input. I was hoping to get a positive ID, but I can see it's one of those finds that isn't going to be for sure, so I'm going to mark it solved. Thanks again.