Coastal flood watch issued

[Dirt Fishin Dale]

Large northeast swells will impact the beaches from Cocoa Beach to Jupiter Inlet as early as Sunday morning and build further Sunday afternoon into Monday. The repeated pounding of large crashing waves into dunes and sea walls through several high tide cycles Sunday into Monday will be a concern.

I know where I will be.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Here is a pic at today's Treasure Beach. Just got back. I dont know these guys, but they were there before me in one of my favorite spots.

 

[Ascholten]

It doesn't really make a difference how many detectors you seen on the beach. With miles of beach property there is no way one person can get all of it. With the weather and the winds and waves the way they are, every high and low tide, the area is re terraformed and is a whole new hunt again.

Have at it, honestly, the stuff will be there for weeks and weeks if sand was taken out and not put back in.

Then again I propose this, Th'ers whine when sand is brought in, well, what's to say that coins or other treasures were not brought in as well with the sand

I have found zincs from last year at 10 inches deep.... I have found coins, judging by the green and aura, have been there a LONG time, less than an inch.... it's out there, go find it.

Aaron

Aaron

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

It doesn't really make a difference how many detectors you seen on the beach.

True. Every one I meet is friendly. They looked as if they were planning some serious excavation. lol The fellow on the right found a foot long spike, he said.

 

[mad4wrecks]

Anyone know if there was sufficient erosion at Bonsteel or Wabasso to warrant a drive from Orlando tomorrow morning?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Anyone know if there was sufficient erosion at Bonsteel or Wabasso to warrant a drive from Orlando tomorrow morning?

Rough surf and high winds, but in my opinion there is not enough erosion. I checked from the Green Cabin to Rio Mar and in between. I drove 335 miles today round trip. I didnt go to Bonsteel.
There appears to be way too much renourishment sand still on the beach and near the dunes. The waves reached the dunes and did some damage, but still came up short by several feet. The lo tide line and shallows are full of dirty renourishment sand stripped from the beach. At one point I fell into some soft sand up to my knee. It must have been a hole of some kind. Very strange. Nasty renourishment crap.
My HeadHunter is still down so I was forced to use my Ace 250 and I didnt like it. The entire beach was wet sand and the Ace did not work well for me so I gave up.
I didnt see any dead fish. A lot of seaweed, plastic trash and turtle eggs everywhere. The renourishment dirt is also full of dead vegetation in some places and it has surfaced.
No finds.

 

[mad4wrecks]

Thanks BC for the quick reply. I will wait for some more responses but your pictures pretty much summed things up.

I did read that there was a 10 foot drop at Wabasso-that was at www.tcpalm.com

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Thanks BC for the quick reply. I will wait for some more responses but your pictures pretty much summed things up.

I did read that there was a 10 foot drop at Wabasso-that was at www.tcpalm.com

I didnt see Wabasso but I was just south of it. There was about a 4-5 foot drop at the old Green Cabin, there was no beach at high tide. (2nd pic) But is that good enough? I dont know. Before renourishment there was a 10 foot drop after the hurricanes for many weeks.
After the hurricanes, Wasbasso had a huge cliff, much higher than 10 feet. Too much fill. But who knows? Maybe something will wash up. I looked for old timbers but didnt find any.

 

[ScubaFinder]

Tom, there was no "cut", the waves were just reaching the dunes, the beach was underwater. Yes, when you stood atop the existing dune, it was 8-10 feet to the water but it wasn't what I would call a cut into the dune. If it keeps this up for another day or two, then maybe.

There were people detecting at every beach I went to, i thought I recognized a young couple at John Brooks, but never got close enough to see. I got pummeled by a huge wave and damn near got carried out to sea. Be careful in the surf, once in a while a monster comes crashing down on top of that knee-deep water you were detecting in. LOL

 

[FISHEYE]

oct/03/07 wabasso beach north of the lifeguard tower.

 

[ScubaFinder]

A lot happened out there from the 1st to the 3rd John. When i was there on the first the dune was still sloped, nice pic.

Jason

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

All that renourishment fill was washed away near the dune at hi tide and deposited lower on the beach burying anything deeper. Thats what I see.

 

[Dirt Fishin Dale]

That was the same result all along the Sebastian area. Can salad everywhere. :P

 

[billinstuart]

Good point cypress..often the material is simply moved back and forth from the water to the duneline..this is indeed a function of wave action, and occurs seasonally. The northeast and southeast winds will blow any "fines" into the sea oats, forming more dunes.

 

[Ascholten]

Ahh the cut is wonderful. I got my little places near the st johnny's and another near mayport and it's panning out nicely indeed. One place the beach looks like that one pic above, about 6 feet of sand cut down from the dune. Many many coins just laying on the surface, not entire exposed like someone placed them there, but you can almost just walk by and look down, and see them.

in area 1 I Found some silver, one wedding ring with the initials BWS in the inside of it, an ok sized diamond on it, (i think it's real, will have it tested hopefully tomorrow), lots of clad, and wheaties and of course the iron stuff too. I think ill need to get in a bit closer to the shore to find the older stuff...



The other area, I am finding all kinds of stuff, square nails, some old iron stuff, a few broken pieces of pottery.. well they look like plates because it has a pattern on it, kind of a blue pattern on white..and some kind of buckle from a belt. has the letter C on it and I think two stars on it as well. Its kind of grungy and im electrolysising it now to clean it up and see what it is.

I also found two old coins, one silver one copper, but they are so worn I can't tell what they are. the copper I think might be a large cent, the pattern on it is barely visible and im hoping that after soaking overnight to get some of the crap off it'llshow better. the silver one, it might as well be a button because it's pretty much smooth and worn off.

stuff is out there folks, go find it.

Aaron

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Sounds like your beaches have no renourishment, Aaron. Sounds great. Too bad that is not the case on the Treasure Beaches.

 

[Ascholten]

big cypress actually one of them does, but this is the thing. I have NO clue where they get the sand from. and I know damned well that the sand doesn't just magically get 'raked' and 'grow' a foot overnight... but every year or so they rake / add more etc etc. Maybe they just pull it in from the surf and drop it off, I dont know but when they do, oh good god... the coins are right there on or very near the surface and you can tell they been in the sand a long time by the coloring on them. Not too much old stuff (ie silver coins or older) but im talking finding $10 plus in change in half an hour of clad..... So even if it does rip out the renourished stuff, its just bringing up that stuff.

See my philosophy is, any day I am alive and out detecting sure as hell beats the alternative. If I find beercans, i recycle for the cash, if I find clad, it's still money I didnt' have before i went there, and my fat ass can definately use the exercise Still a lot of these beaches are wierd. you will find a zinc from a year ago buried 10 inches down, yet find an old green copper (ie been there for a long while) half an inch under just a foot or two away. Don't always go by the theories of 'it's buried, it's this or that, you just never know, and well think about it, find a 14K ring with a nice diamond in it, who cares if it was made yesterday or yesteryear. THAT is a sweet find no matter what you are looking for.

Aaron

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

big cypress actually one of them does, but this is the thing. I have NO clue where they get the sand from.

Actually, at least one of the Treasure Beach sites has sand dredged from offshore. Places like Wabasso had the sand trucked in. Offshore sand put on the beach could be worth searching.

I go to the Treasure Beaches to find treasure, period. Of course I will take modern jewelry but I hate clad. If I was clad hunting, I could do better right here at home in Fort Lauderdale or Miami. There is very little clad or jewelry on the Treasure Beaches. Probably the cleanest and most searched beaches in Florida. It is a shame that 10 feet of renourishment was put on top. A foot of sand, like you speak of, would not really be a problem.