Coin found on beach

Montemac · Jul 23, 2009

This coin was found on the beach today. I am attaching an image of each side. Any idea as to whether it might be real?

Thanks very much.

Bootyhunter1971 · Jul 23, 2009

Need more details about the find. What Beach, in water, in wet or dry sand. What else did you find. Need to know what beach to know about possible history in the area.

silvereagle78 · Jul 23, 2009

Thats a pretty cool find, :thumbsup:

I am sure someone will chime in with the answer soon, there are a few experts for this type of coinage on here. Do you know what the weight of it is?

johnnyi · Jul 23, 2009

Montemac, I don't know about the coin's design, but one thing does seem curious in the scan. It appears that there is a raised rim in the first scan that conforms to the irregular dimensions of the "coin". Maybe this is just the way it is scanned? If there is a rim, then I think this object would be something other than a genuine coin.

Mackaydon · Jul 23, 2009

Monte:
First, Welcome to Treasure Net.
How about the coin's weight (gms) and preceived composition?

Montemac · Jul 23, 2009

Thanks for replying. It was found on the western half of the Oak Island, NC beach, in dry sand, very near one of the new replenishment sand dunes, but on the ocean side of the dune. Only the one coin was found, and it seems fairly heavy.

I have no way of weighing the coin. It looks like gold. As I look at the edge of the coin, it is thicker wherever there is an angle as shown in the head-on view. There may be a not-well-defined rim on the side where the cross is.

ronbo22 · Jul 23, 2009

It is a fake. Look at about 12:00 on the second picture. you ban make out the word "copy" in curly letters.

romeo-1 · Jul 23, 2009

ronbo22 said:
It is a fake. Look at about 12:00 on the second picture. you ban make out the word "copy" in curly letters.

Yep...Pirates of the Caribbean novelty coin...too bad.

johnnyi · Jul 23, 2009

"As I look at the edge of the coin, it is thicker wherever there is an angle as shown in the head-on view. There may be a not-well-defined rim on the side where the cross is."

Hi again Monte. About that rim; as you probably know, the planchets were usually larger in area than the little blob of gold that was struck between them. The blob would expand when struck to form a non-uniform shape usually. The rim on your's seems to follow this particular non-uniform shape, which I don't think would make sense if it were a genuine cob. The edges would be flat, wouldn't they? An exception might be a cob which expanded beyond the planchets, but again, I would think such a coin would show a rounded interior rim, even if the whole coin was irregular.

Mackaydon · Jul 23, 2009

From memory, I don't recall Pillars and Waves coming in gold.

cuzcosquirrel · Jul 23, 2009

The Lima Peru mint produced pillar and wave gold escudos from about 1697 to 1745. This found coin is a very crude fake coin.

Mackaydon · Jul 23, 2009

Thanks, Cuzco.

allen · Jul 23, 2009

welcome to tnet !!
im hoping the next
gold coin is real !!

Corpsegrinder · Jul 23, 2009

Have it acid tested at any gold or jewlery shop.. that will tell you if its real or not..

MUD(S.W.A.T) · Jul 23, 2009

See the red tint in some area's, a real gold coin won't do that. I think its gold plated nickle. :icon_scratch:

Keep @ It and HH!!

Mackaydon · Jul 23, 2009

Ronbo:
Took a while for me to see the word 'copy' but it's sure there. Of course, the way it is written doesn't begin to fulfill the requirements of the Hobby Protection Act, but the word is there NTL.
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