✅ SOLVED Copper Nugget, Part Gold?

Ant · Dec 13, 2015

Now that I figured out the gold nugget that found in the same area I got around to this other nugget. And guess what, it seems to be a alloy of copper and gold, and I can see a couple of spits that look to be shot with gold. I see areas of gold and copper. Do any of you see what I see? It weighs close to a couple pounds, maybe more, and I clearly see gold.

I wonder what it would look like with the copper verdigris patina and the manganese coatings off. I guess I'll end up using Winslow's vinegar and table salt solvent solution to loosen up the patina and coatings.

SoCalDesertFox · Dec 15, 2015

I would love to get out to the High Desert again some time, only time I've been out there was meteorite watching in Lucerne's dry lake bed.

Ant · Dec 15, 2015

You and bigfoot have to come before it gets hot. Hi Desert iis different than the High Desert,

, thanks for all the help.

ConceptualizedNetherlandr · Dec 15, 2015

SoCalDesertFox said:
Oh, something else to note, as large as that is, even a regular scale could tell you the approximate weight in pounds. Pounds x 488 will give you your grams. Even a rough estimate will work for the moment until you can get better equipment.

453.592 ...

Ant · Dec 15, 2015

The Morongo Basin wants to be separate from the High Desert,

. I looked up aluminum and copper per ci and 3 ci of aluminum weighs 132.75 g, and 3 ci of copper weighs 438 g rounded down. I see lots of hollow areas now, that nodual is a bubble. Thanks again.

SoCalDesertFox · Dec 15, 2015

ConceptualizedNetherlandr said:
453.592 ...

Bah, I wasn't thinking. I had actually meant to type 448 originally, which is a fair bit closer.

SoCalDesertFox · Dec 15, 2015

Ant said:
The Morongo Basin wants to be separate from the High Desert, . I looked up aluminum and copper per ci and 3 ci of aluminum weighs 132.75 g, and 3 ci of copper weighs 438 g rounded down. I see lots of hollow areas now, that nodual is a bubble. Thanks again.

Ahh, you're around/off 62 on the east side of SBNF. I've been wanting to hit up the SBNF for some prospecting, might go the extra 20 minutes east to do desert hunting!

Ant · Dec 16, 2015

Well guess what, I set up the experiment taking particular care by being precise as possible. I placed the glass inside the measuring pitcher. Then being careful by filling the glass to the rim without breaking the surface tension. Then I lowered the specimen down into the water below the surface. Then I used a paper towel to remove s enough water to remove the sample and then the glass. Then I used a 1cc syringe to measure the overflow. I got 15.5 cc of water.

So 15 cc of displaced h2o is the same as 15.5 ml.

Then my new quantitative analysis for the sp is 15.80.

Here's how I got that:
50 /x 15.5ml = 15.806451613

Gold

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SoCalDesertFox · Dec 16, 2015

Ant said:
Well guess what, I set up the experiment taking particular care by being precise as possible. I placed the glass inside the measuring pitcher. Then being careful by filling the glass to the rim without breaking the surface tension. Then I lowered the specimen down into the water below the surface. Then I used a paper towel to remove s enough water to remove the sample and then the glass. Then I used a 1cc syringe to measure the overflow. I got 15.5 cc of water.

So 15 cc of displaced h2o is the same as 15.5 ml.

Then my new quantitative analysis for the sp is 15.80.

Here's how I got that:
15.5 ml /x 50= 15.806451613

Gold ..

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That sounds a bit more like what I was expecting. Not pure gold but definitely can't be anything else. Probably 18-20 Karat purity!

Ant · Dec 17, 2015

Hey SoCalDesertFox I put the nugget back into what I started calling Winslow's gold cleaning solvent. The pinkish color is disappearing, it must be dissolving into solution, a green tent to the solution is starting to develop. It's astonishing to me, its turning a solid gold color right before my eyes as I write this. The soultion is exposing a crystalline surface throughout the whole nugget. It is is really amazing, like a frosted cake.

But dang my wife is feeling left out because zI'm giving this nugget so much attention. Thanks.

Ant · Dec 17, 2015

It looks that the pinkish color was being caused by microscope copper particles trapped or lock into place by the gold crystals that by my observations are covering some of the surface. There is a very small amount of blond colored sands developing in the bottom of the breaker, and grain size bubbles observed every 10 seconds or so.

Ant · Dec 17, 2015

Oh here's my progress so far:

SkaBa · Dec 17, 2015

OK, I'll ask the question on everybody's mind.....

What are the EXACT coordinates of this find? Ha!

Very nice.

FC-Treasure · Dec 17, 2015

Wow, so now I'm thinking Banner. What is the weight of the nugget?

Ant · Dec 17, 2015

My scale only goes to 100 grams so I made a balance scale and used fishing weight weighing them as I go. I got 245 grams,

. Heck I thought Banner too but it's only a giant gold nugget that's pushing a 1/2 pound,

.

I guess people don't know how rare a gold nugget of this size and caricature is. Thanks

Here's a pic of how many fishing weights that it took to balance it out.

FC-Treasure · Dec 17, 2015

Ant said:
My scale only goes to 100 grams so I made a balance scale and used fishing weight weighing them as I go. I got 245 grams, . Heck I thought Banner too but it's only a giant hold nugget, .

I guess people don't know how rare a gold nugget of this size and caricature is. Thanks

I think it isn't getting noticed because of the title of the post. e.g. "copper nugget". A post title that has "7.8 troy ounce gold nugget" in the title will go to the banner quickly.

Ant · Dec 17, 2015

I think I'll stop cleaning it now and seekk professional advice before I start removing crystals. Thanks for watching this thread you all and remember "Gold Is Where You Find It":

ConceptualizedNetherlandr · Dec 17, 2015

Crystals of what? Pretty much unlikely you will dissolve gold.

Ant · Dec 17, 2015

It has a frosting of gold and gold crystals in places, gold is soft and i wouldn't want it devalue a $20.000.00 gold nugget by flattening crystals or over cleaning. Dude the thing glows without any light, seriously it really does.