Copper point and Jesuit ring

[DALPAL]

Two recent finds. Found near Albany NY. Is there a way to tell if the point is a trade item or made from one? The point is about 1" tall.

 

Amazon Forum Fav 👍

Agony and Death on a Gold Rush Steamer: The Disastrous Sinking of the Side-Wheeler Yankee Blade - Grab it through Amazon!

[Rege-PA]

Nice trade point....classic example, usually made from discarded brass kettle strips.
Two super finds!

 

[Muddyhandz]

Nice finds! The point is a classic "Eastern" style made from kettle scrap by either a trader or Native. I say eastern because of the triangular shape with a hole.
99 out of a 100 points made from copper kettle metal out here in the west are typically like this.....



The Jesuit ring dates from around 1650 to 1750 and is always a great find in my books.

 

[DALPAL]

Thanks for the input. I also found a lead trade pendant. Are they common anywhere but the east?

 

[Ia.FurTrade]

Thanks for the input. I also found a lead trade pendant. Are they common anywhere but the east?

Got a picture? Love your other finds!

Iowa Dale

 

[DALPAL]

Here is the pic of the pendants. About 2" long.

 

[Muddyhandz]

I'd say those were more likely used as fishing weights as they would be a little heavy to hang as pendants (although they did hang large cowbells from their garb later on) if they're close to 2 inches in length.
I do have the exact holed triangular lead objects like yours found out here in the west at fur trade sites only.
Thanks for sharing.

 

[DALPAL]

In the Collectors's Illustrated Encyclopedia of the American Revolution (pg 270) By Neuman and Kravic they are listed as trade pendants. My only reference...

 

[Sidevalve45]

IXXI on the ring got something to do with the Illuminati or Free Masons?

 

[GuyToken]

WOW super trouvailles, very nice finds. GuyToken