CZ-3D vrrs. Vaquero on depth?

[DiggerinVA]

I dont need a new machine.....buyt i want another one. And these two have always interested me. I have looked at the fisher several times and i just finished the book "mastering the tejon and vaquero" so the Vaq has my attention also. So, ffor users of both; whiich machine is deeper on a dime? That is my only question about the two.....which is deeper?

 

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[supertraq]

Don't have the vaquero but have had many tesoros,even my handle "supertraq" is reference to my lobo supertraq,that said the cz3d or cz5/6a are consistantly more versital be it mineralized soil or the beach a cz will go deep and find more.I have found more with my cz's than all other combined..You will see people like me with a cz that they bought in the mid 90's and still have it and wont part with it and their still going strong.Of course i wont part with my supertraq either..Both manufatures make good machines so it comes down to what your going to be doing,,if the salt beach is not ever in the picture,well

 

[DiggerinVA]

Don't have the vaquero but have had many tesoros,even my handle "supertraq" is reference to my lobo supertraq,that said the cz3d or cz5/6a are consistantly more versital be it mineralized soil or the beach a cz will go deep and find more.I have found more with my cz's than all other combined..You will see people like me with a cz that they bought in the mid 90's and still have it and wont part with it and their still going strong.Of course i wont part with my supertraq either..Both manufatures make good machines so it comes down to what your going to be doing,,if the salt beach is not ever in the picture,well

Thanks for the reply Supertraq........And no i dont hunt beaches...maybe one time a year. But the Cz seems to be the goto for alot of old coin hunters.

 

[Newfiehunter]

Don't have the vaquero but have had many tesoros,even my handle "supertraq" is reference to my lobo supertraq,that said the cz3d or cz5/6a are consistantly more versital be it mineralized soil or the beach a cz will go deep and find more.I have found more with my cz's than all other combined..You will see people like me with a cz that they bought in the mid 90's and still have it and wont part with it and their still going strong.Of course i wont part with my supertraq either..Both manufatures make good machines so it comes down to what your going to be doing,,if the salt beach is not ever in the picture,well

Totally agree with Supertraq....I have both and my CZ5 that was purchased in way back in 1994 is still going strong and is still my primary unit! Will never part with it!

 

[rainyday101]

Don't own either, but besides the depth you might want to consider target separation abilities. I have researched the CZ3D quite a bit and have come close to buying one. Everything I have seen says and shows it is definitely a deep one. The only thing that concerned me is that several owners said it did not have the best target separation. From what I have seen though the CZ3D is king when it comes to slaying nickels, and we all know a lot of rings fall into this conductivity slot. The only other thing that I found to be aware of is that deeper targets, like most detectors can register lower than if they were shallow.

Regardless, the CZ3D is still one detector I would love to own.

 

[supertraq]

Don't own either, but besides the depth you might want to consider target separation abilities. I have researched the CZ3D quite a bit and have come close to buying one. Everything I have seen says and shows it is definitely a deep one. The only thing that concerned me is that several owners said it did not have the best target separation. From what I have seen though the CZ3D is king when it comes to slaying nickels, and we all know a lot of rings fall into this conductivity slot. The only other thing that I found to be aware of is that deeper targets, like most detectors can register lower than if they were shallow.

Regardless, the CZ3D is still one detector I would love to own.[/QUOTE/]




I also want a Tejon,with the mild florida soils i could really find some deep stuff and yea tesoros are probally the best there is in trash.

 

[rainyday101]

Supertraq, last night I had the Tejon out in our mild sandy soil. I get a softer round hit, but not a whisper. At 9" (the length of a Pro Pointer) the pinpointer did not hit anything, but the detector showed it was still there. At about 3-4 inches past that the pinpointer just started indicating. At about another 3" I found a broken bottle that had a cap on it. The bottle was sitting upright with the cap on it. Removed the bottle and detector showed no more target. The plug I cut was only about 4" wide. My arm was in the hole dam near to my elbow to get the target. In mild soil the Tejon is mind boggling deep! It continually blows my mind with depth that it gets.

 

[DiggerinVA]

I got a used cz3d calibrated by Tom D. In good condition.....got it for $475......be here in a few days.......good deal??

 

[rainyday101]

I got a used cz3d calibrated by Tom D. In good condition.....got it for $475......be here in a few days.......good deal??

YEP!!!!!!

 

[supertraq]

I got a used cz3d calibrated by Tom D. In good condition.....got it for $475......be here in a few days.......good deal??

Oh yea you did..wish it was me buying it for that amount of coin.
My cz6a will eventually get modded by Tom,but i first want to get a tejon to play with after what rainy day said,thats what some of the mild soil ares around here need,more depth the old hunted out sites start producing,stuff sinks fast here..

 

[DiggerinVA]

Thanks guys.

 

[rainyday101]

Oh yea you did..wish it was me buying it for that amount of coin.
My cz6a will eventually get modded by Tom,but i first want to get a tejon to play with after what rainy day said,thats what some of the mild soil ares around here need,more depth the old hunted out sites start producing,stuff sinks fast here..

LuckyLarry will also tell you that in mild soil the Tejon is about as deep as it gets. He is right! I love my Tejon but am going to sell it because I want to focus the majority of my detecting in the water. I have a Tigershark and want to go scuba. I am gonna use the Tejon money to finish buying scuba equipment and pay for certification. If you are interested in my Tejon, send me a PM.

 

[mojotrout]

LuckyLarry will also tell you that in mild soil the Tejon is about as deep as it gets. He is right! I love my Tejon but am going to sell it because I want to focus the majority of my detecting in the water. I have a Tigershark and want to go scuba. I am gonna use the Tejon money to finish buying scuba equipment and pay for certification. If you are interested in my Tejon, send me a PM.

Rainy! Didn't you just spend an entire year researching and picking everyone's brains to figure out the Tejon was the machine for you? Only to sell it a few months later?! You're nuts!

That said, getting SCUBA certified and into the water sites you have up there sounds like a great way to find some cool stuff. If I had some extra coin laying around I might be interested in the Tejon, but as is, I'll be waiting a while for any new detector...

 

[atomicscott]

I dont need a new machine.....buyt i want another one. And these two have always interested me. I have looked at the fisher several times and i just finished the book "mastering the tejon and vaquero" so the Vaq has my attention also. So, ffor users of both; whiich machine is deeper on a dime? That is my only question about the two.....which is deeper?

Be aware! They do not all get the same depth (at least mine didn't) as the youtube vids. My Vaquero airtested on a dime at about 7.5". In a fresh test garden I could get a one-way blip at 6". This is with the 5.75" DD. Stock coil was about the same. I dug ALOT of iron (coin sized) trash that would not disc out, even at the highest disc.

 

[DiggerinVA]

Be aware! They do not all get the same depth (at least mine didn't) as the youtube vids. My Vaquero airtested on a dime at about 7.5". In a fresh test garden I could get a one-way blip at 6". This is with the 5.75" DD. Stock coil was about the same. I dug ALOT of iron (coin sized) trash that would not disc out, even at the highest disc.

I decided on the CZ.....should be here Friday. Wanted this machine when i bought the ATpro....got talked out of it. Wanted it when i bought the F75....got talked out of it....So this time i bought it. Been tuned by nasa Tom....certified at 10.5 on a clad dime.

 

[atomicscott]

I decided on the CZ.....should be here Friday. Wanted this machine when i bought the ATpro....got talked out of it. Wanted it when bought the F75....got talked out of it....So this time i bought it. Been tuned by nasa Tom....certified at 10.5 on a clad dime.

Congrats! Other than the balance issue, I've heard very good reports on the CZ. Fisher makes great detectors. Even the F2 is an amazing detector for the price.

 

[DiggerinVA]

Congrats! Other than the balance issue, I've heard very good reports on the CZ. Fisher makes great detectors. Even the F2 is an amazing detector for the price.

Thanks....hope it is all i have thought it would be....lol

 

[madforclad]

I decided on the CZ.....should be here Friday. Wanted this machine when i bought the ATpro....got talked out of it. Wanted it when i bought the F75....got talked out of it....So this time i bought it. Been tuned by nasa Tom....certified at 10.5 on a clad dime.

Just curious...How does one get their machine tuned by NASA Tom? Do you just send it to him and pay him a fee or something? HOw does the process work?

Thanks

 

[atomicscott]

Thanks....hope it is all i have thought it would be....lol

Fletch got a CZ 3d and he said really likes it, & its very deep. He also owned a Vaquero.

 

[DiggerinVA]

Just curious...How does one get their machine tuned by NASA Tom? Do you just send it to him and pay him a fee or something? HOw does the process work?

Thanks

Yes, that is how it works.