Decent hunt today, need help to identify ring!

EpsilonMinus

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Hey guys, went out for a few hours this labor day to a park in a nearby town that always gives me something interesting. This time, besides the pocket full of change, I got this ring. After spending a little time with google I was able to figure out what part of this ring means, but not enough to really identify it. It feels heavy and looks like silver (sterling?), but there are no indicators as to the type of metal it is made of, here are some pics if anyone has any ideas on how to find out.

2010 09 06 - md01 - the lot.webp
$3.29 is not bad, battery-fund appreciates it. The 'false alarm' ring really got me going when I found it. It was like four inches down in some really heavy soil by a tree and seeing that gold really got me excited... that is, until it started falling apart in my hand as soon as I touched it... the fake gem fell off, the gold flaked, hence, false alarm...

2010 09 06 - md02 - ring left.webp
Here is the ring I can't identify. It appears to be some kind of a 'class ring', as the company stamped on the inside seems to specialize in, but after going to their website, they don't have any designs like this for sale. I have figured out what 'Ponca' is, being a tribe of Native Americans that are centered in Oklahoma. The other clues only make it weirder...

More on Ponca tribe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponca

2010 09 06 - md03 - ring right.webp
No idea what this stone is either, but it's damaged/chipped... I assume that implies that it's a fake or something.

2010 09 06 - md05 - ring inside 02.webp
"AST (C) JOSTENS" - On the inside-left of the ring, this is stamped.

2010 09 06 - md 06 - inside 01.webp
"P G" (I think that's a G) This stamp is on the inside-bottom, which I assume is someones initials.

I'd say for a few hours long hunt I didn't do too bad, and as always, I found something interesting to occupy myself with further hunting online. If anyone has any ideas about what this ring is and/or is made of, please let me know.

Thanks for checking out my post!

-EpsilonMinus
 

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Looks like a class ring, Jostens does do class rings, is there any in your area?
 

Chug and Red said:
Looks like a class ring, Jostens does do class rings, is there any in your area?
Is there any what? I'm not sure what you're asking me. From what I know, Jostens is centered around Minnesota or something and they work basically by mail order.
 

Check Ponca City Oklahoma, Thats where the tribe land is. loco


EpsilonMinus said:
Hey guys, went out for a few hours this labor day to a park in a nearby town that always gives me something interesting. This time, besides the pocket full of change, I got this ring. After spending a little time with google I was able to figure out what part of this ring means, but not enough to really identify it. It feels heavy and looks like silver (sterling?), but there are no indicators as to the type of metal it is made of, here are some pics if anyone has any ideas on how to find out.


$3.29 is not bad, battery-fund appreciates it. The 'false alarm' ring really got me going when I found it. It was like four inches down in some really heavy soil by a tree and seeing that gold really got me excited... that is, until it started falling apart in my hand as soon as I touched it... the fake gem fell off, the gold flaked, hence, false alarm...


Here is the ring I can't identify. It appears to be some kind of a 'class ring', as the company stamped on the inside seems to specialize in, but after going to their website, they don't have any designs like this for sale. I have figured out what 'Ponca' is, being a tribe of Native Americans that are centered in Oklahoma. The other clues only make it weirder...

More on Ponca tribe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponca


No idea what this stone is either, but it's damaged/chipped... I assume that implies that it's a fake or something.


"AST (C) JOSTENS" - On the inside-left of the ring, this is stamped.


"P G" (I think that's a G) This stamp is on the inside-bottom, which I assume is someones initials.

I'd say for a few hours long hunt I didn't do too bad, and as always, I found something interesting to occupy myself with further hunting online. If anyone has any ideas about what this ring is and/or is made of, please let me know.

Thanks for checking out my post!

-EpsilonMinus
 

Might be a class ring, as they had some different styles years ago, instead of the standardized version we've seen for the last 50 years or so. Member Mental Granny is in Ponca City, so I'll holler at her and maybe she can help. Cool if it's anything and you can return it.
 

The Ponca Indian Tribe is here but, that is not what our class rings look like they have the Pioneer Woman on one side and a Wildcat on the other for our school masot but, saing that ...... it still could be that it is, there were when I was in shool 2 groups for high shool kids that were Native American it ould be made special for one of them. Chiloco Indian school North of here... just N. of Newkirk where indians from all over lived an went to school! It closed down in the 70's. If thet doesn't help I will see around here if I can find out anything else.
 

EpsilonMinus said:
Chug and Red said:
Looks like a class ring, Jostens does do class rings, is there any in your area?
Is there any what? I'm not sure what you're asking me. From what I know, Jostens is centered around Minnesota or something and they work basically by mail order.


They are a national company that makes class rings, CHEAP AND INEXPENSIVE! Chug said that they came to his school in 1982 to sell them also!!! Red
 

RGINN said:
Might be a class ring, as they had some different styles years ago, instead of the standardized version we've seen for the last 50 years or so. Member Mental Granny is in Ponca City, so I'll holler at her and maybe she can help. Cool if it's anything and you can return it.
Mental Granny said:
The Ponca Indian Tribe is here but, that is not what our class rings look like they have the Pioneer Woman on one side and a Wildcat on the other for our school masot but, saing that ...... it still could be that it is, there were when I was in shool 2 groups for high shool kids that were Native American it ould be made special for one of them. Chiloco Indian school North of here... just N. of Newkirk where indians from all over lived an went to school! It closed down in the 70's. If thet doesn't help I will see around here if I can find out anything else.

Thanks for the information, guys. It seems that you are getting the impression that this isn't a recent loss? Seems weird, too, that such a thing would get lost in a part in north-west Texas. I don't know many people who wear a class ring for many years after they get it, which is why I sort of think its a recent loss, like maybe in the last five years or so. Regarding returning it, that would be really cool to get a positive ID on the owner and do that. The info you have shared so far is pretty good, but I am not sure how to use it to find anyone. The wiki article says that the tribe is relatively small, maybe we could find the owner the old fashioned way, ie. a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy, etc. heh. Thanks again for your help.
 

Chug and Red said:
They are a national company that makes class rings, CHEAP AND INEXPENSIVE! Chug said that they came to his school in 1982 to sell them also!!! Red
This company seems to have been around a long time, and sells the whole range of prices, up into the upper-hundreds.. The cheapest one I found while looking around was $100, so I'm not sure I would call them 'cheap', but given that we don't know what it is or is made of, it could be anything, hah.
 

Well, we're still on it, and I'll do a little more checking. I think it's a recent loss, but it just might fit into an older style. (I know some guys in Oklahoma who graduated in 73 with me who are STILL wearin their class rings) It's unusual to get your initials put into a cheap ring. During the oil boom, there was a lot of Oklahoma boys out in west Texas. (My nephew may be out there right now, or still around Elk City, OK) I'll play with it some more. I like finds where you know there must be a story behind it and wonder what it is.
 

Sweet Finds Man....whats crazy..is if you used the Ace for these...you found more nickels then i have in the last 5 months..lol..for some reason i can never find them...Nice Ring thou..She's a Keeper :thumbsup:
 

RGINN said:
Well, we're still on it, and I'll do a little more checking. I think it's a recent loss, but it just might fit into an older style. (I know some guys in Oklahoma who graduated in 73 with me who are STILL wearin their class rings) It's unusual to get your initials put into a cheap ring. During the oil boom, there was a lot of Oklahoma boys out in west Texas. (My nephew may be out there right now, or still around Elk City, OK) I'll play with it some more. I like finds where you know there must be a story behind it and wonder what it is.
I totally agree, the stories at much to the drama of discovery, very important.
 

Diggin-N-Dumps said:
Sweet Finds Man....whats crazy..is if you used the Ace for these...you found more nickels then i have in the last 5 months..lol..for some reason i can never find them...Nice Ring thou..She's a Keeper :thumbsup:
Man, I was just thinking yesterday about how I never seem to find nickels and how weird that is, but seeing as how they almost always match the pull-tab signals perfectly, I guess I just overlook them as it gets hotter and I becoming more picky in which targets to dig. I am starting to get a better, more subtle, feel for how the Ace picks them up, though. With everything but nickels, I find the Ace is right about 95% of the time, but it has good nickel info for you as well as you figure out the slight difference between solid nickel sound and slightly-jumpy, but almost solid trash. Its slight, but it's there. That said, I think this post is actually my nickel record, hah. But yeah, I have definitely raised my coin scores by skipping the jumpy signals and concentrating on the very solid, repeatable ones. Sounds like an obvious thing to say, but it works.
 

AST stands for Advanced Surface Technologies, which among other things involves electroplating. The Indian appears to be a representation of Big Elk of the Ponca tribe. That's about it. Thanks for letting me play with this. Used to do a lot of investigative type work, but we didn't have computers to use, so this is fun for me. Let you know if I solve the case. Good huntin!
 

Hi EpsilonMinus
The ring might be made of Questra / yellow Lustrium.
You can email Josten's in Owatonna,mn. aps@jostens.com
Send them all the info you posted and they will help you out.

http://www.ringselect.com/questions.html

This tells you about Questa/Yellow and Lustrium.
roger
 

RGINN said:
AST stands for Advanced Surface Technologies, which among other things involves electroplating. The Indian appears to be a representation of Big Elk of the Ponca tribe. That's about it. Thanks for letting me play with this. Used to do a lot of investigative type work, but we didn't have computers to use, so this is fun for me. Let you know if I solve the case. Good huntin!
Thank you for that info, I think that will be helpful. I agree with you, hunting things down is quite fun.
 

good ring !! :o
congrats.
 

Nice find!

Just a suggestion, next find, don't post the inscription. If you do, you'll never know if someone claims to have lost the ring is for real. They could have seen your picture on the web. You no longer have a "secret" question only the owner would know.

Jack
 

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