DOES ANYONE POLICE LARGE COMPETITION HUNTS FOR FAIRNESS ?

Hunts are a challenge to hold and sponsor. If one is not happy with what they experience, maybe they should take it upon themselves in the future to hold a truly honest hunt themselves, since the "sponsor" is perceived in your eyes to be the culprit in the instigations of dishonest doings, or the responsible party to keep it honest.

If you're concerned with whether the hunt will be honest, don't attend. Or be prepared to expose the dishonesty that is observed. Don't just talk about it after the fact. Do something.

or ... Hold your own instead and ensure the honesty with planning, consultation and more planning.

"Does anyone police large competition hunts for fairness?" Don't know. Take it upon yourself to do so if you are so concerned, especially if you observe dishonest doings during the hunt.

Sorry if this comes across as crass, but if you observe dishonest dealings, whether it be during a hunt or during a bank deposit/robbery, how you handle your observations can make or break future happenings.

Noodle
 

There is a way to absolutely insure a fair distribution of ALL prizes, large, small and in between!

I have helped and been hunt master at many organized (fee paid) hunts over the past 40 years. The competition segments (person with highest total painted targets wins 1st place, next most 2ND place and so on) are very difficult to police as has been pointed out, one can bury their found targets in front of a buddy and add to their target total and perhaps finish with a total high enough to place in the top 5 for a share of prize money.

The only fair and honest way for prize distribution is as follows; list all the prizes on a board(s), numbered 1 to xxx. Inform the contestants prior to the hunt that finding a numbered token insures that they win a prize, not WHICH prize they win.

After the hunt is complete, ask a person not affiliated with the hunt to pick a number (corresponding to the prize numbers) out of a hat. THAT prize will be the first one awarded (numbers matching the prize numbers are in a hat) and this will be drawn by a youngster who cannot read. Once that is done the winner of the first prize will draw a second number, the holder of that number will win the next prize and draw a number and on and on until all prizes are awarded.

IF, some tokens for prizes aren't found, each contestant will place their hunt badge number in a hat and the remaining prizes will be awarded in this manner.
Don't have a "hat" large enough? It's OK to use a bucket, or other container :D

Ty
 

I think there are enough of us 'ol timers',that if we even get a hint someone tried something,he would be escorted to the stairs which he will have fallen down(a few times).That's a promise! This group is for comaraderie and friendship,anything else is not invited.
 

Ty said:
There is a way to absolutely insure a fair distribution of ALL prizes, large, small and in between!

I have helped and been hunt master at many organized (fee paid) hunts over the past 40 years. The competition segments (person with highest total painted targets wins 1st place, next most 2ND place and so on) are very difficult to police as has been pointed out, one can bury their found targets in front of a buddy and add to their target total and perhaps finish with a total high enough to place in the top 5 for a share of prize money.

The only fair and honest way for prize distribution is as follows; list all the prizes on a board(s), numbered 1 to xxx. Inform the contestants prior to the hunt that finding a numbered token insures that they win a prize, not WHICH prize they win.

After the hunt is complete, ask a person not affiliated with the hunt to pick a number (corresponding to the prize numbers) out of a hat. THAT prize will be the first one awarded (numbers matching the prize numbers are in a hat) and this will be drawn by a youngster who cannot read. Once that is done the winner of the first prize will draw a second number, the holder of that number will win the next prize and draw a number and on and on until all prizes are awarded.

IF, some tokens for prizes aren't found, each contestant will place their hunt badge number in a hat and the remaining prizes will be awarded in this manner.
Don't have a "hat" large enough? It's OK to use a bucket, or other container :D

Ty
astounding post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes this is exactly right. your reply is the only correct solution. still leaves problem w speed hunting. current hunt i was looking at sez: please do not share tokens...hmmmm...prob not enough to stop anyone bold enough to try it in the first place
 

scrounger , I have seed some hunts, when we buried coins, we did in a irregular patten in a field, I buried two coins sometimes together , some shallow, some deep, I ended up buring 2000 coins for one hunt, by the time I finish , I was beat, I hunted the field the next week with some of the members and we dug 2 coins, the guys clean up, some people cheat, but in life , they do too, maybe some day we will be able to weed them out, go to some hunts, you will have fun, and meet a bunch of great people
 

I would like to be at a hunt with the wind breaker guys. Get a friend on the sidelines with a cell phone watching them. When the plan happens, they would call me and I would try to beat the other guy to his hole, and take his cache away from him! I win!
 

HEY!
Don't you know ::)
That all TH'ers are/is Honest, Trustworthy......OOPs! ::)
Or!
Is that The BSA? :D
 

BSA!!! I attended an organized hunt some years back where several thousand dollars in silver (value at that time) and thousands of dollars in prize tokens where buried by a BSA troop.

Some of the scouts were alleged to have buried many of the silver coins near metal fence posts so that metal detectors would not detect the coins. Did the scouts bury the coins that way.

I don't know that they did, but I know for sure that many coins were in fresh dug holes and were buried so close to the metal posts that a detector would not properly detect them!!! Somehow, the club sponsoring the hunt found out about this and the coins were redistributed over the field so they could be detected prior to the start of this hunt.

Ty
 

In their defense...
Did anyone take the time to explain to them, (BSA) how a metal detector works ? :thumbsup:
Did they bury the coins next to the posts, so, the coins, could be later recovered, if not found? :icon_scratch:
Heck!
There are people today, who are owners of metal detectors, who, themselves, don't FULLY, know how detectors ! ::)
Take a Magnetometer !!! :-\
A very widely used instrument in TH'ing !
JUST!
How many people know/understand how it! works? :icon_study: :tongue3: ;D
 

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