dug 1850 house site

[keithinvestigations]

I dug this today in the back yard of an 1850 era house. I want to say I've seen this somewhere but I can't put my finger on it. Anyone got a clue?

 

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[johnnyi]

Keith, in the first picture is the lower tab on the right which is facing down drilled?

 

[S IL THer]

Looks like it could be associated with a fireplace fireplace tool etc

 

[johnnyi]

It reminds me somewhat of one of a pair of fittings used to suspend a rod on a Morris chair.

 

[QUICKSILVER (appletree)]

trigger guard

 

[BuckleBoy]

Well...it reminds me of these pieces:




My hunch is that these are horse-related--similar to the ones in this post:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,273315.0.html

 

[mrjosh]

I am thinking rein holders for the front of the buggy?

 

[Breezie]

Yep, part of the decorative end of a hanes. Breezie

 

[BuckleBoy]

Yep, part of the decorative end of a hanes. Breezie

Do you mean a "hame"?

 

[Breezie]

Yep, part of the decorative end of a hanes. Breezie

Do you mean a "hame"?

LOL LOL . . Yes, I did mean hames. Obviously you could tell I was folding clothes (Hanes) and reading TNet at the same time; lol. Thanks for catching that typo!
Breezie

 

[simonds]

What is a "hames"

 

[Breezie]

What is a "hames"

Hames are curved bars that fit around the horse collar and serve as the attachment for the trace chains and traces. Breezie

 

[BuckleBoy]

What is a "hames"

Hames are curved bars that fit around the horse collar and serve as the attachment for the trace chains and traces. Breezie

Hames are the knob-like pieces on the top of the photo posted directly above. The circular pieces are the rein guides ("terrets"). I assume this is what Breezie meant. Because the pieces posted in the photo up top do not resemble hames.

 

[Breezie]

What is a "hames"

Hames are curved bars that fit around the horse collar and serve as the attachment for the trace chains and traces. Breezie

Hames are the knob-like pieces on the top of the photo posted directly above. The circular pieces are the rein guides ("terrets"). I assume this is what Breezie meant. Because the pieces posted in the photo up top do not resemble hames.

Dang, and all this time, I thought a hame was one of the two curved wooden or metal pieces of a harness that fits around the horse's neck. I've always heard them called hames; I didn't know the hame was just the ball part. We learn something every day. Breezie

 

[BuckleBoy]

What is a "hames"

Hames are curved bars that fit around the horse collar and serve as the attachment for the trace chains and traces. Breezie

Hames are the knob-like pieces on the top of the photo posted directly above. The circular pieces are the rein guides ("terrets"). I assume this is what Breezie meant. Because the pieces posted in the photo up top do not resemble hames.

Dang, and all this time, I thought a hame was one of the two curved wooden or metal pieces of a harness that fits around the horse's neck. I've always heard them called hames; I didn't know the hame was just the ball part. We learn something every day. Breezie

The wooden piece may also be called a hame--I think I've seen both pieces called "hames." But the other brass pieces on that piece of wood all have their own names too.

 

[Breezie]

What is a "hames"

Hames are curved bars that fit around the horse collar and serve as the attachment for the trace chains and traces. Breezie

Hames are the knob-like pieces on the top of the photo posted directly above. The circular pieces are the rein guides ("terrets"). I assume this is what Breezie meant. Because the pieces posted in the photo up top do not resemble hames.

Since all of my life I've heard that the curved bars (metal or wooden) that fit around a horse/mule's neck were called hames, I googled some harness companies to help clarify the difference. From what I read, the 'balls' on top are called 'hames balls' because they sit on top of the hames. http://www.leathersupply.com/downloads/catalog/Hames&HarnessParts/Hames&Parts.pdf
Breezie

 

[SkyPirate]

Fireplace flue handle

 

[traderoftreasures]

the squared end looks drilled. looks victorian

 

[slowreaper]

I would wager it is not connected with the hames nor part of the rein guide on a driving harness.
The photo in the other post is a driving harness, hames are used on work or pulling harnesses.
I could possably be a rein holder on a buggy as suggested.
It also reminds me a little bit like a broken handle for lifting wood stove lids.

Brad

 

[horsepower]

Actually, some driving harness have hames also but they are much thinner. Back east, they often used what is called a boston buggy harness that has a breast collar that the horses pushes against rather than tugs that go to the hames. A standard harness with hames, usually called a western britchen, is a bit more particular in getting them put on properly and tightened just right whereas a breast collar harness is faster on and off but less comfortable for the horse on a long day.