Eastlake Hardware & Whatsit

[steelheadwill]

Eastlake Hardware & Whatsit

Hi All !
Returned to the site that gave up the Cody Arsenal Star Rivet for a 30 minute dig.
Trying the TTF settings, this is so different than conductive hunting
which yield a continuous null on this field.
Thanks Goes4Ever for the great setup info
Managed to pull an Eastlake Locking latch handle and Hinge, 2 heelplates, and 2 whatsits.
One is some type of reflector, maybe another carriage part
the other is an iron ring and chain with some odd links and end piece,
can anyone help with ID's on these?
thanks for looking & Great Digs to All

 

[artyfacts]

Re: Eastlake Hardware & Whatsit

That's a great looking ornate handle pull and lock. I have seen something similar to the reflector you have dug somewhere, maybe an old bike. Narcosis has set in... Nice little bits.. Arty

 

[MaineRelic]

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Hey Herbie , Believe it or not I dug the same reflector last spring in Bangor . Mine was in worse shape than yours with the heavy red glass all busted up. It was still in my scrap heap when I moved down to Portland mid summer . Whats left of it is in the Hampden landfill now . I suspected it was an early truck brake light but who knows . The chain is a milking chain I believe , Used to teather the hind leg of a cow that likes to kick alot while it is getting milked . Good stuff ! MaineRelic .

 

[VOL1266-X]

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Herbie, you and MR need to open a hardware and antique store and sell your finds. You guys find some very interesting relics. By the way, I'm sure kuger (Cody) is flattered by you calling the Washingtion Arsenal brass brad the "Cody Arsensal" brad but I know for a fact he was not around in 1860-LOL. Great finds as usual, Quindy.

 

[steelheadwill]

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Ahh Well, Live and Learn (Post & learn )
A year ago I might have tossed my cob in the lead scrap bucket
thanks for all the help with Id'ing my finds
Back to the cove at dawn tomorrow
best digs to you all

 

[clovis97]

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Nice finds!!!!

I'm not an expert, but I would consider your cabinet pull with a lock to be earlier than Eastlake. Its more of the Victorian era, the way I see it.

 

[steelheadwill]

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thanks Clovis,
Eastlake popular around 1880s, during victorian era.
is this correct?

 

[clovis97]

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You are correct.

The Eastlake movement was part of the Victorian era, and was most popular after 1880.

Eastlake style is much more simple and clean in design, yet bold. Eastlake also features geometric designs.

I'm no expert, but I used to handle lots of architectural salvage for a local preservation group, and I did sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last year. Eastlake definitely has its own style that is far different than traditional Victorian. Once you get to know Eastlake, you kind of fall in love with it...at least I did.

 

[steelheadwill]

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You are correct.

The Eastlake movement was part of the Victorian era, and was most popular after 1880.

Eastlake style is much more simple and clean in design, yet bold. Eastlake also features geometric designs.

I'm no expert, but I used to handle lots of architectural salvage for a local preservation group, and I did sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last year. Eastlake definitely has its own style that is far different than traditional Victorian. Once you get to know Eastlake, you kind of fall in love with it...at least I did.

Thank you again,
I only learned of the 'Eastlake' style through T-net members, I had posted this recovered (not dug) hardware in 'What is it', I recall that you participated in that posting also

It was identified as 'Eastlake' though it appears there are a 2 different styles in this collection, the set of 6 latches is similar to the items in original post, with floral/acanthus design, the others have the geometric patterns.
(found in cigar rollers bungalow. Key West Fl, owner stated 'ship hardware')
this is a great learning experience.
Good Hunts to All

 

[steelheadwill]

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Hey Herbie , Believe it or not I dug the same reflector last spring in Bangor . Mine was in worse shape than yours with the heavy red glass all busted up. It was still in my scrap heap when I moved down to Portland mid summer . Whats left of it is in the Hampden landfill now . I suspected it was an early truck brake light but who knows . The chain is a milking chain I believe , Used to teather the hind leg of a cow that likes to kick alot while it is getting milked . Good stuff ! MaineRelic .

Thanks MaineRelic,
I see how the end piece of the chain would go through one of the round links, similar to the 'T' style clasps on some jewelery.
I may try to disassemble the 'Cherry Cookie', it appears hollow, about 1-1/4" thick,
screws are somewhat intact.
see if there's any electrics in there
Best Digs to You

 

[clovis97]

Re: Eastlake Hardware & Whatsit

You are correct.

The Eastlake movement was part of the Victorian era, and was most popular after 1880.

Eastlake style is much more simple and clean in design, yet bold. Eastlake also features geometric designs.

I'm no expert, but I used to handle lots of architectural salvage for a local preservation group, and I did sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last year. Eastlake definitely has its own style that is far different than traditional Victorian. Once you get to know Eastlake, you kind of fall in love with it...at least I did.

Thank you again,
I only learned of the 'Eastlake' style through T-net members, I had posted this recovered (not dug) hardware in 'What is it', I recall that you participated in that posting also

It was identified as 'Eastlake' though it appears there are a 2 different styles in this collection, the set of 6 latches is similar to the items in original post, with floral/acanthus design, the others have the geometric patterns.
(found in cigar rollers bungalow. Key West Fl, owner stated 'ship hardware')
this is a great learning experience.
Good Hunts to All

Will,

Aha!!! I knew that I had talked or read about Eastlake on TN recently!

That ship hardware is Eastlake, especially the stuff in the last picture...it is a dead ringer for Eastlake. You can't get any closer to Eastlake than that!!!!

You know that Eastlake from the ship is worth a small fortune, right? (Especially if it is brass.) I sold a small coffee can full of Eastlake hardware on eBay several years ago. It was in rough condition, rusty in some places, and had 7 coats of paint. IIRC, that can brought over $130, and my stuff was cast steel. It might have brought twice that if it had been solid brass.

I could be embarrassing myself here, but many years ago, I read an article about Victorian and Eastlake styles. Seems that, IIRC, that Victorian styles used a rose and it's leafs and vines as a symbol for their high society type of lifestyle. Victorian was frilly and grand. The Eastlake style was celebrated with a use of a daisy type flower for it's symmetrical and geometric design, and it is often the center point of the hardware. Eastlake is simple, bold and elegant.

One of the things you also see on Eastlake is that it is a mirrored image on the hardware, meaning that if you could fold it over in half, both ends are exactly identical to each other. Sure, you see this on all types of hardware, but it really stands out on Eastlake.

There are transitional styles in architecture too, meaning that as one style was dying, another was becoming more popular. A house, as well as single pieces of hardware, can show elements of both styles. This leaves some room for interpretation of which style something fits into.

Again, I'm no expert. There are some awesome books on Eastlake style.

 

[steelheadwill]

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Great information! the hardware is brass except for the bolt tongues & chains.
Best to you

 

[m bryan]

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Awesome finds! I love that kind of stuff.....thanks for posting.