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I bought this Pinellas Point back around 1989 or so at a local, well known show (St. Leo), for 10 bucks, was in a case with many others for sale. This one looked the best..... I never gave it any thought that it might be a fake. It was in the center of my Woodland point frame for many years. It was the only point I've ever bought.
I eventually realized that I just wanted my own personal finds so I sold this on eBay, with a guarantee.
Buyer, who visits these boards, sent it to Carlos Tatum, a Florida COA specialist, who killed it. I also sold off most of the artifacts that people had given to me. I remember the Seller Jerk's face and have looked for him at subsequent shows.
I refunded the 45 bucks the buyer won it for, plus the postage, plus half of the 20 dollar COA cost.
No more eBay for me and now I don't care who you are, I don't trust that if you make modern repro/fake artifacts of any type they won't wind up in collections with authentics. Stop making them and take up crosswords. "Look what I can do!" hahahaha, ugh.
Your crap will likely end up in an auction or sale someday, perhaps when you die and your ungrateful wretched heirs (LOL!) sell off your crap at the Estate Sale. Yeah sure you permanently mark all work as repro. I'll take your word on that? Nope. Disclaimer: I believe there are ethical modern knappers out there.
On a postive note, modern flintnapping is a great boon to the COA and ballpeen industries.
This point got the ballpeen treatment and I have a nice example of a "bad" COA.
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Ohio_Doug said:
I have an easy remedy for ya, how about find your own and don't buy ANY from ANYONE. I will never ever buy a point, if I don't personally find it I will not own it. If I ever become good enough to reproduce a point that someone would buy after I'm long gone, then that's on the buyer. Ever heard the phrase "Buyer Beware"?

Your a smart man Doug.
 

i used to knapp points, and i was quite good at it...ask Tom. i had the knack, and it was alot of fun. what i realised one day as i was knapping, was that these points i'm making will outlast me by thousands of years. it made me sick because it took all the fun out ot it for me. no matter how much fun it was, it didn't change the fact that my repros would be eventually passed on to someone, maybe sold, long after i'm gone...or even while i was alive. i then thought of all the hundreds, if not thousands of knappers out there and i saw a tidal wave of repros flooding shows, etc. i used to make all kinds of reproductions, from celts, to gorgets, to atlatls, to pipes....but i gave it up. i don't expect other reproductionists to do the same, this was just my personal experience with it.

i think if knappers use materials that the Native Americans didn't use, or didn't have access to, it would make the whole problem go away...if there was some way to PERMANENTLY sjhow that it's a repro...

fake patinas? AAAAARRRRRGHHHHH!!!! SCUM!

hi ho, hi ho, a ballpeenin i go!
 

I have removed Romeo-1 comments, as well as Lucky in kentuckys comment on this post. I am locking it down.If you need to know more ask me, if you have seen the post , then I dont have to explain myself. John Lucky after reading your last post on this subject, it is very clear that you are here to stir it up. I am not going to put up with it.
 

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