fake Spanish cob or medal?

[Moe (fl)]

Found this recently at the beach. Is this a fake Spanish cob?

It is non-magnetic. It may be silver plated with copper. There is an 'M' on the top right side.

 

[RELICDUDE07]

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This could be a real 1 moe.Can you clean it a bit and post more pics?Im sure some 1 will nail it with all the cob pros on tnet!

 

[Moe (fl)]

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I will have to clean it more. Posted 3 more pics.

Moe

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

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Fake cobs are usually pot metal. I agree with relicdude.

 

[Moe (fl)]

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I see two pillars (see picture below) on the other side (Spanish pillar wave).

It looks silver plated over copper. I am wondering if this was a piece of jewelry.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

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Silver coins can turn green in saltwater. Are you sure its copper?

Chagy's pic aboard Seahunter found Jupiter Inlet.. (not my pic)

 

[Moe (fl)]

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I'll have to take better pictures this week. I will try to clean it more.

 

[timekiller]

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I know of no cobs with pillars on them (I'll look to make sure).And don't think it would look that way if it was real!The earlist ones were round later they began to make odd shaped ones as demands grew! These are two I found on a salt water beach.And other than the black tarnish they have no other damage.Even ones I've seen come from overboard with sea growth still look good underneath.So in my opinion not real!
Reguards Pete

(1 Real's)should weigh around 3gms

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

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I know of no cobs with pillars on them (I'll look to make sure).And don't think it would look that way if it was real!The earlist ones were round later they began to make odd shaped ones as demands grew! These are two I found on a salt water beach.And other than the black tarnish they have no other damage.Even ones I've seen come from overboard with sea growth still look good underneath.So in my opinion not real!
Reguards Pete

(1 Real's)should weigh around 3gms

I think hes referring to the milled pillar reale or the pillars and waves type cob. . I cant see enough of the item thru the corrosion to say either way at this point. I think the green is caused by the copper leeching out of the silver. They are commonly called here found on the beach as "greenies."
Nice cobs.

 

[timekiller]

Re: fake Spanish cob?

I know of no cobs with pillars on them (I'll look to make sure).And don't think it would look that way if it was real!The earlist ones were round later they began to make odd shaped ones as demands grew! These are two I found on a salt water beach.And other than the black tarnish they have no other damage.Even ones I've seen come from overboard with sea growth still look good underneath.So in my opinion not real!
Reguards Pete

(1 Real's)should weigh around 3gms

I think hes referring to the milled pillar reale or the pillars and waves type cob. . I cant see enough of the item thru the corrosion to say either way at this point. I think the green is caused by the copper leeching out of the silver. They are commonly called here found on the beach as "greenies."
Nice cobs.

Ok gottcha miss understood Yea even the ones you show there (Are they yours?) -(nice if so) in your hand would clean up nice and is what I was talking about.Sorry!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: fake Spanish cob?

I know of no cobs with pillars on them (I'll look to make sure).And don't think it would look that way if it was real!The earlist ones were round later they began to make odd shaped ones as demands grew! These are two I found on a salt water beach.And other than the black tarnish they have no other damage.Even ones I've seen come from overboard with sea growth still look good underneath.So in my opinion not real!
Reguards Pete

(1 Real's)should weigh around 3gms

I think hes referring to the milled pillar reale or the pillars and waves type cob. . I cant see enough of the item thru the corrosion to say either way at this point. I think the green is caused by the copper leeching out of the silver. They are commonly called here found on the beach as "greenies."
Nice cobs.

Ok gottcha miss understood Yea even the ones you show there (Are they yours?) -(nice if so) in your hand would clean up nice and is what I was talking about.Sorry!

No I only found one 8 reale cob in the early 80's and a few pieces near the beach and some milled reales in the mangrove swamps. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,48541.0.html The hand is my friend Chagy. Cobs were found on the Seahunter. Not my pic.


Heres another greenie (not mine) Are you sure its copper Moe?

 

[timekiller]

Re: fake Spanish cob?

I know of no cobs with pillars on them (I'll look to make sure).And don't think it would look that way if it was real!The earlist ones were round later they began to make odd shaped ones as demands grew! These are two I found on a salt water beach.And other than the black tarnish they have no other damage.Even ones I've seen come from overboard with sea growth still look good underneath.So in my opinion not real!
Reguards Pete

(1 Real's)should weigh around 3gms

I think hes referring to the milled pillar reale or the pillars and waves type cob. . I cant see enough of the item thru the corrosion to say either way at this point. I think the green is caused by the copper leeching out of the silver. They are commonly called here found on the beach as "greenies."
Nice cobs.

Ok gottcha miss understood Yea even the ones you show there (Are they yours?) -(nice if so) in your hand would clean up nice and is what I was talking about.Sorry!

No I only found one 8 reale cob in the early 80's and a few pieces near the beach and some milled reales in the mangrove swamps. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,48541.0.html The hand is my friend Chagy. Cobs were found on the Seahunter. Not my pic.


Heres another greenie (not mine) Are you sure its copper Moe?

I bet the eight made your day! Yea all these silvers I found came from salt water beaches.None of mine ever was in to bad of shape so did not take much cleaning.Just wore sometimes from grinding in the sand!
Take Care BigC,Hope you find another someday!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

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I bet the eight made your day!

I didnt really know what it was when I found it. I took it to a coin dealer who told me it was fake for sure. I cleaned it, saved it in my junk box (believe it or not) all these years, learned to use a computer and posted it here many years later, also showed it to members in person to have it IDed as real.. I also once used a milled reale I just found, in a telephone booth, to make a phone call when my truck was broke down. Thats one I regret.

 

[IronSpike]

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Sweet Spanish cob Moe (fl)

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

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maybe its a button?

 

[Tony in SC]

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What ever it is it's a cool find. I get down there three times a year. Unless there's a storm I usually average one good piece a year. You local guys have it covered!! Tony

 

[Moe (fl)]

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I cleaned this item a little a now can see that the 'M' is a 'W' and there is an 'A' next to it ('WA').

I need to take new pictures.

 

[Moe (fl)]

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Was able to clean this piece a little.

I can see letters 'LM' and 'WAY'. The other side looks like part of a religious medal. It is silver plated. Any ideas?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

A tough one to ID Moe. I guess we can safely rule out Spanish cob.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

It might be a religious 3 or 4 way medal. The upper right kinda looks like the Miraculous Medal marking.

Behold St. Christopher and go your WAY in safety?