Farm Fresh - Interesting and Mystery Button.... HELP !! :-)

[FooserPaul]

Farm Fresh - Interesting and Mystery Button.... HELP !! :-) (Solved)

Hello all!

Been hunting a farm field and lots of button were a popping out of the ground... but I have one that looks interesting and need some ID help...

Thank you in Advance!
Paul

 

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[duggap]

Can you tell us what the writing around the edge says.

 

[deepsecrets]

Might be a livery button - I can make out the Phoenix rising with cross above the head - JE RENAIS DE MES CENDRES. (I Will Rise of My Ashes)

Stack's : (ca. 1832-33) Oregon Territory Phoenix button. Brass. Rulau-E Ore 5 var. Very Fine. (1542692810)

Metal buttons bearing the Phoenix bird, the motto "Je Renais De Mes Cendres" which roughly translates to "I rise from my own ashes". A number have been found in quantity in historic sites along the lower Columbia River, and less commonly throughout western North America. Phoenix buttons were not made for Napoleon, as often claimed, but were manufactured by an English firm in the early 1800's for King Christophe of Haiti. The Phoenix bird and the motto come from his coat of arms; the numbers refer to regiments. These military uniform buttons were brought to the Northwest before 1835 by an independent trader, most likely Nathaniel Wyeth, who probably used uniform coats, which he may have obtained earlier when shipping ice to the West Indies, to trade for fish for his salmon packing plant on the Columbia River.

 

[FooserPaul]

Might be a livery button - I can make out the Phoenix rising with cross above the head - JE RENAIS DE MES CENDRES. (I Will Rise of My Ashes)

Stack's : (ca. 1832-33) Oregon Territory Phoenix button. Brass. Rulau-E Ore 5 var. Very Fine. (1542692810)

Metal buttons bearing the Phoenix bird, the motto "Je Renais De Mes Cendres" which roughly translates to "I rise from my own ashes". A number have been found in quantity in historic sites along the lower Columbia River, and less commonly throughout western North America. Phoenix buttons were not made for Napoleon, as often claimed, but were manufactured by an English firm in the early 1800's for King Christophe of Haiti. The Phoenix bird and the motto come from his coat of arms; the numbers refer to regiments. These military uniform buttons were brought to the Northwest before 1835 by an independent trader, most likely Nathaniel Wyeth, who probably used uniform coats, which he may have obtained earlier when shipping ice to the West Indies, to trade for fish for his salmon packing plant on the Columbia River.

DeepSecrets... You are daMAN !! Thank you for the good eye and quick id... I think you nailed it good !!!

Paul

 

[tennessee digger]

Yep, deepsecrets did a great job on that one!!!!!!! Tennessee digger

 

[Tom_in_CA]

yup, deep secrets got it. Good job. Here's another T'net post on the subject. About a page or two into it, I wrote a bunch on the phoenix button. So you can read it here:

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/todays-finds/270755-mysterious-phoenix-button-button-city.html

And if you want to email me your pix, I would like to forward it to a fellow I know who is writing a book on the subject of phoenix buttons. He's keeping track of their distribution (of where found) in the USA, so as to perhaps shed light on the mystery of their circulation, entry into trade, etc... My email is ttanner777@aol.com