FOUND: A.V.C. Button at Gen. Morgans CSA Camp with Josh. Update.

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FOUND: A.V.C. Button at Gen. Morgan's CSA Camp with Josh. Update.

Dman and I planned to meet Josh at first light and hunt one of our sites near a Gen. John Hunt Morgan C.S.A. Camp today. Josh only had 3 hours to hunt this morning. While I was waiting for Dman, his wife called and told me he had to turn around and return home as he had a reaction to some medicine the doctor had given him yesterday. I knew he must really be sick to miss a hunting trip. Since Josh expected us to hunt, I drove over and met him. We considered sending an undertaker over to check on Dman because he loves digging relics.
The first pic is of our combined finds for the 3 hour hunt. Josh found the coat size Eagle button. He and Dman have recovered 4 or 5 Eagle GS buttons from that site in a few trips there. I found a cuff size high convex button and didn't bother to clean it. I assumed it was another Eagle button. It was in great shape with a solid shank. Josh dug 7 buck'n balls from one hole. We thought a Confederate Soldier had a cartridge box spill there. A little later, Josh dug the iron buckle from a cartridge box at 9 inches deep. After 3 hours, it was time to leave even though we were still getting diggable signals.
I poured some bottled water on the button I found. It looked like an Eagle button at first glance. I got out my trusty magnifying glass and handed the button to Josh so his young eyes could check it. He said "Those wings are drooped and it has E V C above the eagle". I said "Yeah, right!!" Suddenly, I remembered Josh didn't know what an A.V.C. button was. I asked if it was "A.V.C."? He said that was right. I really could not believe my eyes plus it still had gold gilt traces on it. I looked it up in Albert's Book. It's an AB 3 A with a "Lambert & Mast/Phila" backmark but it's a cuff size.
This is the first CS button I have ever dug in 15 years of hunting CS sites. Plenty of flat and Eagle buttons but good CS buttons are rare in early Morgan sites where the troops were poorly outfitted. I called Dman this afternnon to check on him. He said he was better but after hearing what I found, he said he got sick again-LOL.
This is historically significant as records show TN, KY, & Texas troops there with Gen. Morgan but no evidence of Alabama troops being there until today per Larry Hicklen in Murfreesboro. HH, Quindy.

UPDATE-The button will be pictured in the "Just Dug" section of the January 2011 issue of American Digger Magazine, in "Recent Field Recoveries" of a future issue of North South Trader's Civil War Magazine, and the Editor of W & E Treasures Magazine has requested that I write an article involving the button recovery and all relics found from that site by Dman, Josh, and myself. Thanks for looking and stay tuned-We have just begun to hunt!!
 

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Re: FOUND: A.V.C. Button at Gen. Morgan's CSA Camp with Josh TODAY!!

Let me be the first to say CONGRATS buddy! They are rare and beautiful buttons. That makes two in a months time for TNET...which is some sort of record as I don't believe there was ever one posted before last month!! :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: Its been a LONG TIME COMING for you my friend and you deserve it for the patience and endurance you displayed! That's what always wins the race and glad to see you get it, that will definitely get the monkey off the shoulder of anyone :occasion14: :occasion14: :occasion14:
Although there were some soldiers from the Army of Northern Virginia who came down to bolster Gen. Bragg at Chickamauga and in East Tennessee, I'd say that its more likely off the jacket of an Alabama soldier in the Army of Tennessee... but when he lost it, the Nashville Campaign, or a cavalry raid into a Yankee camp there in Tennessee to strike against the Blue Bellies; that's one of the pleasures of digging something like this: the mystery!
 

Re: FOUND: A.V.C. Button at Gen. Morgan's CSA Camp with Josh TODAY!!

Oh Man!!!!

You did it this time buddy!

I'll bet Mrs.Q. Has plans for you tonight! :laughing9:
Congratulations Quindy on a well deserved relic! :hello2:

Mike
 

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Re: FOUND: A.V.C. Button at Gen. Morgan's CSA Camp with Josh TODAY!!

Nice button Quindy. I don't know the last time I saw a AVC button on here. Super nice rare find.
 

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treasurehound said:
Nice button Quindy. I don't know the last time I saw a AVC button on here. Super nice rare find.
Agreed!
 

Re: FOUND: A.V.C. Button at Gen. Morgan's CSA Camp with Josh TODAY!!

Q-
I see another story in your future. :icon_thumleft: Congrats you lucky dog! :occasion14:
Welcome back.

I called Dman this afternnon to check on him. He said he was better but after hearing what I found, he said he got sick again-LOL.

I see you haven't lost your humor. ;D

-Doug-
 

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treasurehound said:
Nice button Quindy. I don't know the last time I saw a AVC button on here. Super nice rare find.

Treasure Hound, surely you remember posting to this one just alittle over a month ago :icon_scratch: Had a conversation about H.K. Edgerton.. :wink:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,349645.0.html
 

Re: FOUND: A.V.C. Button at Gen. Morgan's CSA Camp with Josh TODAY!!

Awesome find. I wished I could have been there to see it come out of the ground. I did the happy dance when you called me and told me what you found.
It should be on banner.
Dman
 

Re: FOUND: A.V.C. Button at Gen. Morgan's CSA Camp with Josh TODAY!!

ALL RIGHT BUD!!!!Man,couldnt have come to a more deserving fellow!!Will be seeing this in A.D??Great article by the way....I JUST got my last issue!!! :dontknow:
 

Re: FOUND: A.V.C. Button at Gen. Morgan's CSA Camp with Josh TODAY!!

{Sentinel} said:
Let me be the first to say CONGRATS buddy! They are rare and beautiful buttons. That makes two in a months time for TNET...which is some sort of record as I don't believe there was ever one posted before last month!! :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :hello2: :hello2: :hello2: Its been a LONG TIME COMING for you my friend and you deserve it for the patience and endurance you displayed! That's what always wins the race and glad to see you get it, that will definitely get the monkey off the shoulder of anyone :occasion14: :occasion14: :occasion14:
Although there were some soldiers from the Army of Northern Virginia who came down to bolster Gen. Bragg at Chickamauga and in East Tennessee, I'd say that its more likely off the jacket of an Alabama soldier in the Army of Tennessee... but when he lost it, the Nashville Campaign, or a cavalry raid into a Yankee camp there in Tennessee to strike against the Blue Bellies; that's one of the pleasures of digging something like this: the mystery!

Thanks Josh. I remember very well the one you dug. Never thought I'd be lucky enough to recover one Bud. This is an early 1863 Morgan Camp. He left that camp in June 1863 to go on his famous Ohio Raid and abandoned that site. Beats me because they never returned there. Q.
4-H said:
Oh Man!!!!

You did it this time buddy!


I'll bet Mrs.Q. Has plans for you tonight! :laughing9:
Congratulations Quindy on a well deserved relic! :hello2:

Mike
Thanks Mike. She has been eyeing it for her button collection-won't happen.
treasurehound said:
Nice button Quindy. I don't know the last time I saw a AVC button on here. Super nice rare find.
Thanks Randy. I remember Josh finding one in VA. Q.
ModernMiner said:
Q-
I see another story in your future. :icon_thumleft: Congrats you lucky dog! :occasion14:
Welcome back.

I called Dman this afternnon to check on him. He said he was better but after hearing what I found, he said he got sick again-LOL.

I see you haven't lost your humor. ;D

-Doug-
Thanks MM. With this new NASA level computer, I've almost lost my religion several times. Q.
Dman said:
Awesome find. I wished I could have been there to see it come out of the ground. I did the happy dance when you called me and told me what you found.
It should be on banner.
Dman
You could have found it if you had been there and using a F75 instead of that SE. Q.
kuger said:
ALL RIGHT BUD!!!!Man,couldnt have come to a more deserving fellow!!Will be seeing this in A.D??Great article by the way....I JUST got my last issue!!! :dontknow:
Thanks Cody for everything. I expect to see some gold nuggets posted from you soon. Q.
 

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Awesome find. I wished I could have been there to see it come out of the ground. I did the happy dance when you called me and told me what you found.
It should be on banner.
Dman
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You could have found it if you had been there and using a F75 instead of that SE. Q.



:laughing9: :laughing9: :laughing9: :tongue3:
 

Re: FOUND: A.V.C. Button at Gen. Morgan's CSA Camp with Josh TODAY!!

Quindy!!! What have you gone and done?? :o AVC's are turning up in odd places the last couple months.. I am so glad that you found this thing though.. Someone who loves and cares about the history that was around your area is who the artifact belongs with. I hope you will post a clear picture for us soon. Congrats!
 

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umrgolf2010 said:
Quindy!!! What have you gone and done?? :o AVC's are turning up in odd places the last couple months.. I am so glad that you found this thing though.. Someone who loves and cares about the history that was around your area is who the artifact belongs with. I hope you will post a clear picture for us soon. Congrats!
Thanks Jeff. As you get older, unraveling new historical facts mean as much as finding the relics as I'm sure you will find out in 35 or 40 years. Tomorrow, I am going to my friend the pro photographer who makes most of Dman and my article pics and get a good one. Then, I speak to a 40 person meeting on the Battle of Hartsville. In early November, I speak to a retired teacher group and my wife is trying to rember who asked her at school today to get me to speak somewhere about the CW. I think Bill Clinton & Al gore get paid for speaking-LOl. HH, Quindy.
 

Re: FOUND: A.V.C. Button at Gen. Morgan's CSA Camp with Josh TODAY!!

Quindy,

That is one hell of a button find! FANTASTIC dig, my friend! :notworthy:

That button would make my year...or several years!


Well done.


Best Wishes,

Buckles
 

Re: FOUND: A.V.C. Button at Gen. Morgan's CSA Camp with Josh TODAY!!

Nice dam nice, great find!
Nis
 

Re: FOUND: A.V.C. Button at Gen. Morgan's CSA Camp with Josh TODAY!!

Quindy,
I'm not sure if I read your post correctly, but if that was your first CS button, then congradulations on that, and even bigger one that it was an A.V.C!!!!! :headbang: :headbang: I'm sure DMAN was feeling a little worse after missing that hunt, but glad he is feeling better.
can't wait to see more post soon on those signals you all where still getting.
Guy
 

Re: FOUND: A.V.C. Button at Gen. Morgan's CSA Camp with Josh TODAY!!

Outstanding find!! I dug a spot years ago in Va and watched one of them come out feet from where I was digging!! It was the second one form that site in a couple of days.. You have a great button and great recovery!!

MB
 

Re: FOUND: A.V.C. Button at Gen. Morgan's CSA Camp with Josh TODAY!!

Big time congrats! That is an awesome find. I know the feeling, I have hunted CW relics for 20 years and only found two Confederate buttons, one being also an AVC cuff. Congrats again ...now get out there and get your second one!
 

Re: FOUND: A.V.C. Button at Gen. Morgan's CSA Camp with Josh TODAY!!

Quindy Quindy Quindy....I think I'm going to be wanting your autograph my man ;D Super Save....one more off the "never get list" Big time Congrat's :thumbsup:
 

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{Sentinel} said:
treasurehound said:
Nice button Quindy. I don't know the last time I saw a AVC button on here. Super nice rare find.

Treasure Hound, surely you remember posting to this one just alittle over a month ago :icon_scratch: Had a conversation about H.K. Edgerton.. :wink:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,349645.0.html

You are correct Josh. I can't believe that I forgot about that one. That does make two rare AVC buttons found in the past few weeks. I hope you guys find some more.
 

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