Gold Again!

steelheadwill · Nov 1, 2011

Back out at low tide,
found this round item.
Tests 14K+, 29mm, 2.4 Gr.
some of the design aspects resemble a Dandy button,
I'm thinking it is the face to a brooch or pendant.
Note one side is more worn, has a single slightly off center hole.
Anyone got an idea on date, usage ? :icon_scratch:

.50 Cal practice round, Adjustable square,
remains of a cigarette box with Chinese lions,
more numbered brass tags, think I got these IDed, old lobster trap tags :hello2:

Other whatsit items,
Something that looks like a hanger of sorts, the angled slot would hold something..
Thought the next one was a radiator cap, til I cleaned it, and saw the gear and spiral inside.
Also the small caps with slot, about .5 inches Diameter,
have found many at different sites.
Anyone seen any of these items before? :help:

Hoping to get back out in the woods today, away from the mudflats,
that snow is melting fast !!
Thanks for looking, HH All :thumbsup:

civilman1 · Nov 1, 2011

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I was thinking fishing reel at first Herbie but also geared for the P-Cap dispenser....Case solved i believe :thumbsup:

Cool dig's and Congrat's on the Gold!!

Dman · Nov 1, 2011

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Those are some great finds. I am looking forward to seeing what the gold piece is.
Dman

VOL1266-X · Nov 1, 2011

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Herbie, I don't have a clue what the gold thing is but I really like it. However, I don't see a spoon-LOL. HH, Quindy.

ModernMiner · Nov 1, 2011

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Herbie,
Great finds. That gold piece is outstanding whatever the heck it is. :dontknow:

Nice job,
Doug

SeaninNH · Nov 1, 2011

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auprospector44 said:
I think the spiral groove thingy is a percussion cap dispenser for muzzleloading firearm percussion caps...possibly a Colt pattern.

This

timekiller · Nov 1, 2011

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Good lord Herbie looks like I'm going to have to change your name again to the Golden Goose.... :laughing7:

Anyway if I had to venture a guess on your gold piece i start with carriage clocks.There's alot that have the gold in the dial like that I have one that is 25mm so 29mm could still fit I'd think.
Take Care,
Pete, :hello:

Nana40 · Nov 1, 2011

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8) The little gold piece is fascinating! I think I'll go with Pete's guess as to what it was/is. :icon_thumright:

Awesome digs, Herbie!

Nana

steelheadwill · Nov 2, 2011

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ivan salis said:
the small slot caps -- think christmas tree glass balls* the metal caps on the top of the glass bulbs normally they have a bit of u shaped wire that goes thru the slot for the hooks connect with for putting them on christmas trees.

Ivan, i think you nailed these little items, size is consistent, iron wire long gone..
Thanks for the info on these! :thumbsup:

steelheadwill · Nov 2, 2011

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I think there's no doubt now that the snail item is a percussion cap dispenser :hello2:

Many Thanks to auprospector44, MKIII, Sean, Swampcreek, and Civilman1.
Very pleased to have found another Firearm related piece :wink:

steelheadwill · Nov 2, 2011

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Timekiller said:
Good lord Herbie looks like I'm going to have to change your name again to the Golden Goose.... Anyway if I had to venture a guess on your gold piece i start with carriage clocks.There's alot that have the gold in the dial like that I have one that is 25mm so 29mm could still fit I'd think.
Take Care,
Pete,

That clock is a beauty Pete

Any info on it's date ?
BTW, there were other clock pieces in the vicinity, including the ratchet gear with wooden shaft, found the previous day I believe, and within 10 feet (this is soaking and will be treated with pentacryl)
I've been going over this site extremely slow,,,
It is target rich and seems virgin.
I'll see if I can find info about dating wooden clock works.
I don't think wood has been used for a long time,
And I think your ID is spot on :wink:

thanks for the help! Best digs to you :hello:

Woodland Detectors · Nov 2, 2011

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steelheadwill said:
I think there's no doubt now that the snail item is a percussion cap dispenser
Many Thanks to auprospector44, MKIII, Sean, Swampcreek, and Civilman1.
Very pleased to have found another Firearm piece

That is a very cool find Herbie

steelheadwill · Nov 2, 2011

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Nana40 said:
8) The little gold piece is fascinating! I think I'll go with Pete's guess as to what it was/is.
Awesome digs, Herbie!

Nana

Thanks Nana,
I had a lot of questions and appreciate all your replies!
HH All

steelheadwill · Nov 2, 2011

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Woodland Detectors said:
steelheadwill said:

I think there's no doubt now that the snail item is a percussion cap dispenser
Many Thanks to auprospector44, MKIII, Sean, Swampcreek, and Civilman1.
Very pleased to have found another Firearm piece

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That is a very cool find Herbie

Thanks Mike! Now i have 3 musket parts and a related piece

I appreciate your banner vote on that disc, maybe I'll recover some more of the clock, & we can get it up there, Need the case, I think it would have been wood.
I recall a couple targets that came out with freshly broken wood fragments in the plug. $:-\$ I'll concentrate on some of those overload signals... ya never know :wink:

Best to you & HH :thumbsup:

steelheadwill · Nov 2, 2011

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VOL1266-X said:
Herbie, I don't have a clue what the gold thing is but I really like it. However, I don't see a spoon-LOL. HH, Quindy.

Thanks Dman, MM, and Quindy !
I did get a Big spoonbowl & Tombac out of there,
They just didn't make the cut in the OP,
had too many other items with questions...
Hope to get back out today!
HH all :thumbsup:

steelheadwill · Nov 2, 2011

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I still have one more item, anyone seen something like this?
I'm thinking a hanger of sorts, 3 rivets hold it on a leather belt.
V shaped slot would accept appropriate match on rifle strap or scabbard :icon_scratch:

timekiller · Nov 2, 2011

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steelheadwill said:
Timekiller said:

Good lord Herbie looks like I'm going to have to change your name again to the Golden Goose.... Anyway if I had to venture a guess on your gold piece i start with carriage clocks.There's alot that have the gold in the dial like that I have one that is 25mm so 29mm could still fit I'd think.
Take Care,
Pete,

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That clock is a beauty Pete
Any info on it's date ?
BTW, there were other clock pieces in the vicinity, including the ratchet gear with wooden shaft, found the previous day I believe, and within 10 feet (this is soaking and will be treated with pentacryl)
I've been going over this site extremely slow,,,
It is target rich and seems virgin.
I'll see if I can find info about dating wooden clock works.
I don't think wood has been used for a long time,
And I think your ID is spot on
thanks for the help! Best digs to you

Not sure on the date of mine Herbie it was from my granddad that pasted away last year.A guess would be late 1800's-early 1900's as they had quite a few items that dated to that range.Without looking very hard here are some others to see what I mean.I think I remember somewhere they were made 1800's up...
http://www.valuableclocks.com/carriage_clocks.htm
http://www.antique-collectable-clock.com/antique-carriage-clocks.html
http://www.tomsclocks.com/collection.htm

steelheadwill · Nov 3, 2011

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Timekiller said:
steelheadwill said:

Timekiller said:

Good lord Herbie looks like I'm going to have to change your name again to the Golden Goose.... Anyway if I had to venture a guess on your gold piece i start with carriage clocks.There's alot that have the gold in the dial like that I have one that is 25mm so 29mm could still fit I'd think.
Take Care,
Pete,

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That clock is a beauty Pete
Any info on it's date ?
BTW, there were other clock pieces in the vicinity, including the ratchet gear with wooden shaft, found the previous day I believe, and within 10 feet (this is soaking and will be treated with pentacryl)
I've been going over this site extremely slow,,,
It is target rich and seems virgin.
I'll see if I can find info about dating wooden clock works.
I don't think wood has been used for a long time,
And I think your ID is spot on
thanks for the help! Best digs to you

Click to expand...

Not sure on the date of mine Herbie it was from my granddad that pasted away last year.A guess would be late 1800's-early 1900's as they had quite a few items that dated to that range.Without looking very hard here are some others to see what I mean.I think I remember somewhere they were made 1800's up...
http://www.valuableclocks.com/carriage_clocks.htm
http://www.antique-collectable-clock.com/antique-carriage-clocks.html
http://www.tomsclocks.com/collection.htm

thanks Pete :hello:

I see a couple on tomsclocks site with similar ornament...
If the disc and woodshaft gear are from the same clock, (Probable)
I'm guessing it would date pre 1800, considering the style of design on the disc,
and the wooden shaft.
Guessing is a key word here as there were wooden pocketwatches being made in Russia at the turn of the century

HH all! thanks for looking :thumbsup:

worldtalker · Nov 3, 2011

Herbie, Missed the last 5 days,power out everywhere!!!!!You know those mudflats are UNSEARCHED!Glad to hear about the OTHER place,waiting to see what you uncover,You may have a perminate spot on banner finds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! God Bless HH Chris

johnnyblaze · Nov 9, 2011

That gold piece is simply amazing :hello2:

Did you find out what it is :dontknow:

Blaze

steelheadwill · Nov 10, 2011

johnnyblaze said:
That gold piece is simply amazing

Did you find out what it is

Blaze

Blaze, I think Pete, (Timekiller) solved this with his antique clock photo above.
It's a decorative trim to an old clock, why gold? don't know...
3 Grams of gold (actually about 1-1/2, as it tests 14K) was not a lot of money compared to what it cost for a handmade clock in Colonial Times.
(Date guess judging by the decorative motif & wooden shaft)