Gold Bug Pro - 5" Round Double-D or 5x10 Elliptical?

[DizzyDigger]

When I purchased my GBPro from Bart he (nor anyone else in the country)
had the 2-Coil Combo in-stock, so instead I got just the GBPro with the
stock 5" round Double-D coil.

The 5" is great for getting into tight spots in rocky or tight terrain, but when
detecting open areas it doesn't cover much ground. I've yet to find gold, but
have located enough pieces of very small lead and iron that I have have full
confidence that when I do pass the coil over a findable nugget it's going to
tell me about it.

Recently found a very large, wide and (mostly dry) riverbed that I can nugget
shoot in. It goes for miles, and although the channel gets very wide at times,
the water flow is pretty much restricted to about a 30' section. This leaves
a large dry area of old riverbed for me to detect, and with the 5" it'll take
just about...forever.

For those that have both...do you find the 5x10" elliptical to be nearly as
sensitive as the 5" Double-D? Would you consider it's cost (approx. $170)
to be worth the investment?

There is a history (local native lore) about some pretty decent nuggets coming
from this drainage, and although I can never hunt it all, it's not far from home
and I have the time to hunt it. The 5x10 would make that much easier, but
I'm only willing to invest in the coil if it's performance is up there with the 5".

Thoughts?

 

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[trinityau]

DizzyDigger, somewhere on this forum or on the Arizona Outback Forum I talked about the ten inch eliptical coil for the GB Pro. The only time I will use my five inch round nowadays is if the ten inch goes out, however I now have a second ten inch coil if that was to happen. The ten inch will get into crevices so much better than the five inch. I think the nose of the ten inch coil is far more sensitive than the five inch. If you are detecting for crumbs you will want to detect with the coil at slight pitch so the tip is travelling over the ground. When encountering larger pieces then you will get more depth from the ten inch by running it flat to the ground. Other than the original GBII with the tiny boot I have not found anything that will do better. I am seeing a bit more depth on crumbs and decent pieces with the ten inch over the five inch. $170.00 seems a bit high however. TRINITYAU/RAYMILLS

 

[Ausgoldhunter]

I would have to agree with Ray, while I like my little 5" DD... The 5x10 is the way to go. Just an all around handy coil to run..

 

[DizzyDigger]

Ray, Aus..Many thanks for the good info!

I had suspected that it might be a good performer, but just wanted
some assurances before I pulled the trigger and bought one. Hopefully
Bart will have one in-stock, along with coil covers for both the 5" and
5"x10".

I really have no idea if I'll find anything in that drainage, but it's close
to home, and has enough dry bed to keep me busy for years. Gotta be
a nugget in there somewhere!

 

[Ausgoldhunter]

I find the 5" DD is a tad more sensitive but rather noisy.

 

[nuggetshooter323]

The elliptical coil is the way to go, most gold detector's have a 5x10" elliptical as the standard coil. I don't know why companies besides Whites, don't make the 5"- 6" small coils elliptical instead of round.

 

[extractor]

I have both coils and they both have their place on hunts.
I prefer using the 5x10"elliptical when I'm out for nuggets.
I have used the 5" for nuggets an it works Just fine.
When I hunt very trashy park picnic areas for coins / other goodies, I use the 5"round.

 

[Ausgoldhunter]

Consider Nel Sharpshuter Fisher Gold Bug as a cheaper as good if not better option. 9.5x5.5 SS Coil by NEL.. I've been using them for a few years now and would rather run a NEL than almost any stock coil.. I find it to be as sensitive as my 5x10 and cost less..

 

[nuggetshooter323]

I like the way the NEL coils for the Tesoro's look. How is the depth on the large diameter coils, and the sensitivity on the smaller one's?

 

[Hoser John]

Smaller the coil the more chatter,but smaller gold. Bigger coils cover that ground and once you find a patch and clean it out. Put that little ol'coil on and see what ya missed. There is also more coile from Kelly co Excelerator SEF EDS Pro that quite a few folks are using for both depth AND sensitivity. Works on the F75 and GB Pro models. Best one I've seen in action and many 100s a nuggets produced and the last one was paid for in a weeks take-John

 

[AzViper]

So much for asking a simple question. You have to read this entire post to learn why my question is not being answered correctly.

In regards to NEL Coils for a Fisher Gold Bug Pro. My questions to NEL Coils through email.

AzViper: Is the Nel Sharpshuter Coil for a Fisher Gold Bug or Gold Bug Pro?

NEL’s Reply: Fisher Gold Bug and Gold Bug Pro - it's exactly the same devices. Coils for pro, dp are the same, but not the larger coil is not give a large increase given depth

AzViper 2nd Email: Andrey the Gold Bug and the Gold Bug Pro are not the same Metal Detectors. Fisher makes different coils for each of these MD. My question does NEL make a coil for the Gold Bug Pro and what NEL coils are they. Fischer coils that are designed for the Gold Bug will not work on the Gold Bug Pro.

NEL’s 2nd Reply: Yes, coil nel will work with Fisher Gold Bug pro

AzViper 3rd Email: I am still not getting the needed answer. What NEL Coil will work on the Fischer Gold Bug Pro?

NEL’s 3rd Reply: I do not speak English, so I use google translator. Maybe he (Hmmm he the translator, computer) did not correctly translate. I want to say that the coil NEL is fully compatible with Fisher Gold Bug pro

AzViper’s 4th Email: What Nel coil will work? If I can't get an answer then I will just move on.

Turns out the NEL Coils are made in the Ukraine. They have listings on Ebay but it appears they have nobody that can deal directly and understand English.

 

[Rebel73153]

The Original Gold Bug and the Gold Bug Pro run at the same frequency and so if the connectors are the same should work on either like he said. The Gold Bug II is the 71 khz version.

 

[G.A.P.metal]

There are a couple of dealers for the NEL Coils here in the United States... one in Mass. and one in N.J.
Gary

 

[H-2 CHARLIE]

im looking into these too but if the NEL is only amost as good as the larger OEM model I should just get the 10 inch fisher

 

[Hoser John]

Dizzy Digger started thread so NOT YOUR QUESTION to moan about. When a question is asked it is absolutely assumed a person is trying to garner additional information NOT known prior to a QUESTION. Thats called a forum. These fine folks have tried their level best to ANSWER someone elses question and you don't like the answers hahahahaha-John

 

[AzViper]

Dizzy Digger started thread so NOT YOUR QUESTION to moan about. When a question is asked it is absolutely assumed a person is trying to garner additional information NOT known prior to a QUESTION. Thats called a forum. These fine folks have tried their level best to ANSWER someone elses question and you don't like the answers hahahahaha-John

John who are you to be preaching... So much negative crap comes from you, its a joke. Most of your post have a negative feel to them. Instead of helping you find faults. I on the other hand will go out of my way to help anyone. H-2 Charlie is looking at the NEL's and I am only providing information I learned. G.A.P Metal is also offering NEL information. Then it was Ausgoldhunter who posted a NEL link. So John get off of the high pedestal you think you belong on and offer help to others and not be a you entire adult life.

im looking into these too but if the NEL is only amost as good as the larger OEM model I should just get the 10 inch fisher

Charlie stick with purchasing the OEM. In dealing with NEL it has been a headache in getting any information from them. I ended up using Google Translate but in the past it does not translate exactly what you want it to say and with the language gap who knows.

Here was my last question and reply from NEL.


AzViper: Which of these NEL coils for Gold Bug Pro and has better depth in search of gold in mineralized soils? NEL Storm, Nel Tornado, Nel Hunter, Nel Sharpshuter

NEL's Reply: In Ukraine there is no gold-gold sands and soils, there is no native gold, I cannot check it. I cannot answer your question correctly.

There are a couple of dealers for the NEL Coils here in the United States... one in Mass. and one in N.J.
Gary

Thanks G.A.P. I have emailed both but received a return to sender error from the NJ website. Not sure if they are still in business. Waiting for a reply from the other.

When I purchased my GBPro from Bart he (nor anyone else in the country)
had the 2-Coil Combo in-stock, so instead I got just the GBPro with the
stock 5" round Double-D coil.

The 5" is great for getting into tight spots in rocky or tight terrain, but when
detecting open areas it doesn't cover much ground. I've yet to find gold, but
have located enough pieces of very small lead and iron that I have have full
confidence that when I do pass the coil over a findable nugget it's going to
tell me about it.

Recently found a very large, wide and (mostly dry) riverbed that I can nugget
shoot in. It goes for miles, and although the channel gets very wide at times,
the water flow is pretty much restricted to about a 30' section. This leaves
a large dry area of old riverbed for me to detect, and with the 5" it'll take
just about...forever.

For those that have both...do you find the 5x10" elliptical to be nearly as
sensitive as the 5" Double-D? Would you consider it's cost (approx. $170)
to be worth the investment?

There is a history (local native lore) about some pretty decent nuggets coming
from this drainage, and although I can never hunt it all, it's not far from home
and I have the time to hunt it. The 5x10 would make that much easier, but
I'm only willing to invest in the coil if it's performance is up there with the 5".

Thoughts?

Mike did you ever purchase the Fisher elliptical coil? I want to purchase another coil to use. My mining partner bought the ATX of which he picks it up today from FedEx.

 

[trinityau]

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 11:40 AM Hello guys, Kellyco has the coil. It is not listed as a coil for the GB Pro. It is listed as a coil for the F75 and it will fit. I tried one quite a while back and it made the GB Pro too unbalanced for me to carry around. I really did not see any difference in performance when compared to the ten inch coil. If you have your ears turned on you will hear the same signals with the ten inch eliptical coil. I use my bug in very shallow ground. If the ground gets too deep I bring the 3000/Sadie out and will hear most targets. You need a combination of machines to effectively cover all ground. No one unit is going to get it all. No one coil is going to get it all. My feelings are that the Gold Bug Pro/ten inch coil combo is great. Spend some time with it and I think most will agree. While we are talking about the GB Pro, my name came up as someone who modifies or knows about modification of the GB Pro. I do not and I see no reason for it. Mine works fantastic as it is. One tip for the ten inch coil, learn to use the main coil for more depth and the tip for extreme sensitivity. Thanks, TRINITYAU/RAYMILLS Hello guys, I posted this on another forum almost a month ago. TRINITYAU/RAYMILLS

 

[AzViper]

Posted 20 January 2014 - 11:40 AM Hello guys, Kellyco has the coil. It is not listed as a coil for the GB Pro. It is listed as a coil for the F75 and it will fit. I tried one quite a while back and it made the GB Pro too unbalanced for me to carry around. I really did not see any difference in performance when compared to the ten inch coil. If you have your ears turned on you will hear the same signals with the ten inch eliptical coil. I use my bug in very shallow ground. If the ground gets too deep I bring the 3000/Sadie out and will hear most targets. You need a combination of machines to effectively cover all ground. No one unit is going to get it all. No one coil is going to get it all. My feelings are that the Gold Bug Pro/ten inch coil combo is great. Spend some time with it and I think most will agree. While we are talking about the GB Pro, my name came up as someone who modifies or knows about modification of the GB Pro. I do not and I see no reason for it. Mine works fantastic as it is. One tip for the ten inch coil, learn to use the main coil for more depth and the tip for extreme sensitivity. Thanks, TRINITYAU/RAYMILLS Hello guys, I posted this on another forum almost a month ago. TRINITYAU/RAYMILLS

Hi Ray,

I believe you are talking about the Detech 15"x12" coil for the F75. Am I correct?

 

[Goldwasher]

Az Viper I'm glad your a member

 

[Hoser John]

They work just fine hahaha-whatever as leaves more gold for others. In ignorance there is bliss and some here for sure. There are optimists(happy happy happy)---pessimists(AZ V) and then realists of which I am as fact and test based and not what you insanely post-John