good Chinese brands?

[deepclaw]

Anyone using a good metal detector from a good Chinese brand? Just curious; so many things are made in China these days, and there are some fantastic Chinese brands in handheld radios and so on. There have to be some great ones coming from China, right?

 

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[LM]

Actually I thought about ordering detectors in bulk from china. I would name and label them Best Detectors. That why when ever anyone made a search on line for best metal detector, my web site would come up. Lots of ideas but lack the drive or resources.

The search engine competition for the phrase "Best Metal Detector" is very strong.
You'd probably never get to the Page 1 promised land barring huge public adoption of your product.

 

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[Treasure_Hunter]

Its nearly impossible to escape Chinese goods in the modern era. The computer you typed that message on is full of them.
People often get selective-morality about foreign made products as it relates to something they have a particular fetish for.

Has nothing to do with foreign made, they are counterfeit detectors made to look like name brand detectors down to the name. Multiple brands have posted warnings to their customers on their websites...

 

[Phantasman]

Has nothing to do with foreign made, they are counterfeit detectors made to look like name brand detectors down to the name. Multiple brands have posted warnings to their customers on their websites...

True, TH. But the issue is......to the Chinese they are not counterfeit. This goes on all the time in that country. There is no innovation to become competitive within their own borders. They see quantity, not quality, since a third of all humans live there. A socialist nation has no good, better, best. There is the GoldFinder imitating a F75. No different than having a Fuddruckers sign over a McDonalds. No matter what you see, yur still eating McDonalds.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

True, TH. But the issue is......to the Chinese they are not counterfeit. This goes on all the time in that country. There is no innovation to become competitive within their own borders. They see quantity, not quality, since a third of all humans live there. A socialist nation has no good, better, best. There is the GoldFinder imitating a F75. No different than having a Fuddruckers sign over a McDonalds. No matter what you see, yur still eating McDonalds.

If they are not counterfeit to Chinese then sell them only to to customers in China. They are made to look like name brands right down to the model names, it is fraud and the intent is to cheat people who think they are buying the real deal. No different than selling fake Rolex watches or fake designer purses and clothes, no different than selling gold rings made out of brass...

 

[cudamark]

Its nearly impossible to escape Chinese goods in the modern era. The computer you typed that message on is full of them.
People often get selective-morality about foreign made products as it relates to something they have a particular fetish for.

Granted, sometimes you have no choice, but, when you do, think about it's consequences first. I don't mind paying more for something made here.

 

[Kamorle]

I have the gold finder 2 on order. It was 150$ plus 50$ shipping. Its a t2 clone with a different name. Its using the same software and hardware as the t2 and the YouTube reviews are mostly good with a depth of up to 15" on a quarter. I'll post a review and compare it to my Garrett AT gold when It arrives.

 

[peterh]

These two words rarely go together. Good and Chinese! Stick with the known brands, Whites Garret Minelab etc

 

[TheHunterGT]

edited for off topic...my bad....misunderstood the discussion.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Its not made in USA vs made in China products, we are talking about counterfeit detectors, there is a difference. It is the same thing as counterfeit Coach purses and counterfeit watches.

 

[Msbeepbeep]

Why would you want to buy from someone that steals other's ideas and hard work, makes cheap non quality knock offs by in humane forced labor practices, trying to undermine the legal businesses, and also, have you ever tried returning a device to China for replacement or better yet a refund? Ya good luck with that one!

 

[Loco-Digger]

I have the gold finder 2 on order. It was 150$ plus 50$ shipping. Its a t2 clone with a different name. Its using the same software and hardware as the t2 and the YouTube reviews are mostly good with a depth of up to 15" on a quarter. I'll post a review and compare it to my Garrett AT gold when It arrives.

You get what you pay for. I watched a video on one of those Chinese detectors ( the T2 clone) over a month ago. The bottom shaft was flimsy. Hard to imagine swinging a detector with a flimsy shaft without constant falsing on the ends of the sweeps. Did they have a 5 year warranty program like First Texas, Fisher Research Labs or Teknetics offer?

Search Fake T2 It's a youtube video. I just watched it again. Buyer Beware!!!

 

[Phantasman]

If they are not counterfeit to Chinese then sell them only to to customers in China. They are made to look like name brands right down to the model names, it is fraud and the intent is to cheat people who think they are buying the real deal. No different than selling fake Rolex watches or fake designer purses and clothes, no different than selling gold rings made out of brass...

That's what I was saying. China doesn't have an internal fair trade practice. There is no EPA, there is no BBB, there is no strict copyright laws, there is no minimum wage, and on. Some companies desire to be successful using worldwide ethics, while some desire to sell to ignorant people who only care about bottom dollar, no matter what. There are no standards within their borders.

Since 2009, China is the largest producer of automobiles, producing more than the US and Japan combined. Yet hardly any are exported. This due to not only being cheaply made, but lacking safety features. Like I said........no standards.

 

[Phantasman]

You get what you pay for. I watched a video on one of those Chinese detectors ( the T2 clone) over a month ago. The bottom shaft was flimsy. Hard to imagine swinging a detector with a flimsy shaft without constant falsing on the ends of the sweeps. Did they have a 5 year warranty program like First Texas, Fisher Research Labs or Teknetics offer?

Search Fake T2 It's a youtube video. I just watched it again. Buyer Beware!!!

TBH, anyone who gets burned in that unethical choice deserves to be burned, IMO.

When I was a golfer, I used to watch guys buy Chinese knock-offs of Cobra, Calloway Big Bertha's and other premium clubs. They said "they look and feel the same as the originals at half the price". Then when they played with them, they found that the "sweet spot" used to get good control over the ball sent it everywhere but where you wanted it to go, basically it didn't even have one. They sure looked nice, but stunk worse than fair engineered clubs for beginners.

 

[Kamorle]

You get what you pay for. I watched a video on one of those Chinese detectors ( the T2 clone) over a month ago. The bottom shaft was flimsy. Hard to imagine swinging a detector with a flimsy shaft without constant falsing on the ends of the sweeps. Did they have a 5 year warranty program like First Texas, Fisher Research Labs or Teknetics offer?

Search Fake T2 It's a youtube video. I just watched it again. Buyer Beware!!!

There is a different producer making the fake T2. The gold finder 2 is the one that has good reviews. So far the customer service is exceptional. The freight rates from China aren't much different to Canada then ordering from the states. Understand that I went USA first with Garrett and was sorely dissatisfied their pro pointer is garbage with well known issues and nonexistent customer service for Canadians. The At gold I bought was over priced, under powered and lacking options. Sorry America but your gonna have to step up your game.

 

[cudamark]

Its not made in USA vs made in China products, we are talking about counterfeit detectors, there is a difference. It is the same thing as counterfeit Coach purses and counterfeit watches.

To me, this is more intellectual theft than a true counterfeit. A counterfeit in my book is something made to fool you into believing that you're getting the genuine article, as in your Coach and watch examples. They aren't calling these knockoffs a Fisher or Garrett but they're using their technology without paying for it. Both are despicable and criminal in IMO.

 

[RustyGold]

Just because a person doesn't like a particular detector is not a good enough reason to buy a counterfeit and then
expect the USA to step up its game!
It's still ripping off the legitimate manufacturers for their technologies!

 

[Kamorle]

To me, this is more intellectual theft than a true counterfeit. A counterfeit in my book is something made to fool you into believing that you're getting the genuine article, as in your Coach and watch examples. They aren't calling these knockoffs a Fisher or Garrett but they're using their technology without paying for it. Both are despicable and criminal in IMO.

American companies copy and steal from their competition all the time! The Fisher's F75 and the T2 for example. Its just business. Then comes competition from outside sources and there's suddenly a big issue whether Japan or China. The issue here is someone's undercutting the competition and people get angry.. well Ill judge the competition myself. If its a waste of money or not, no matter its my money to waste. Ill post a honest review on YouTube and here. If I don't like it or it doesn't work Ill take it apart and tinker with it for fun.. I couldn't afford a 1000$ risk like that from a real T2.

 

[Kamorle]

Just because a person doesn't like a particular detector is not a good enough reason to buy a counterfeit and then
expect the USA to step up its game!
It's still ripping off the legitimate manufactures for their technologies!

The USA is always charging inflated prices for their products.. people like to think that the big prices=big wages this just isn't totally true. The big prices go more to big exec salaries and bonuses. I can buy a waterproof phone that can dam near do the dishes its so advanced for the same price as a mediocre metal detector from the states, Why? Competition in the phone market. As long as the big guys have a game rigged we will be paying more for less in the metal detecting scene.

 

[cudamark]

You don't think there is competition in the metal detecting market?? If theft can be proven, American companies will sue their competition. Hard to do that in China. If you don't have to spend the money for R&D, naturally you can sell your goods cheaper. If you buy from them, you just encourage that sort of thing.

 

[Tnmountains]

You see the knock off pro pointers all the time on ebay. Buyer beware is an understatement.China steals all its technology.