Great nickel box with errors ?

[ugotit22]

So picked up a nickel box today. Pulled two dateless buffalo nickels and two silver wartimes. I also got what I think are two pretty cool errors. Thoughts.

One appears to be a heavy grease coin. The end of liberty and star and part of the 1 in 1982 are almost invisible. The reverse shows heavy grease spots I think.

The other appears to be a big cud 2013p. The thing is a I can't tell if it was just a blob someone put on later. Again thoughts are appreciated.

Thanks for looking

 

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[Death&Taxes]

Looks like it is just a blob; there is no sign of excessive die usage and there is no Blakesley Effect. The '82 looks like a really weak strike, as I have frequently seen nickels struck from overused dies that have the same wavy pattern.

 

[port ewen ace]

the CUD is a CUD. Blakesley applies to planchet clips at 180 degrees from the clip, with Cuds the obverse MAY show a weak area of the devices due to lack of full pressure where the missing piece of die is located.

as to the '82-P, reverse is a die with major wear & possible poor strike, BUT-- the obverse at the date & star-- is likely grease fill.

toss the '82, not much value with the small area affected ----- the CUD---- figger $15---MINIMUM --- up to $25, I now have a major BOLO on that one

 

[ugotit22]

the CUD is a CUD. Blakesley applies to planchet clips at 180 degrees from the clip, with Cuds the obverse MAY show a weak area of the devices due to lack of full pressure where the missing piece of die is located.

as to the '82-P, reverse is a die with major wear & possible poor strike, BUT-- the obverse at the date & star-- is likely grease fill.

toss the '82, not much value with the small area affected ----- the CUD---- figger $15---MINIMUM --- up to $25, I now have a major BOLO on that one

Awesome thanks for the info

Im pumped abou the cud. Only my second one, Searching for errors is more time consuming but alot more rewarding

 

[TwoYewts]

the CUD is a CUD. Blakesley applies to planchet clips at 180 degrees from the clip, with Cuds the obverse MAY show a weak area of the devices due to lack of full pressure where the missing piece of die is located.

as to the '82-P, reverse is a die with major wear & possible poor strike, BUT-- the obverse at the date & star-- is likely grease fill.

toss the '82, not much value with the small area affected ----- the CUD---- figger $15---MINIMUM --- up to $25, I now have a major BOLO on that one

I would agree with PEA. Looks like a CUD to me. I would also suggest submitting your pics to Cuds on Coins...I didn't see one posted for 2013 up there yet

 

[port ewen ace]

a large number of errors I have are not listed with cudsoncoins

 

[Death&Taxes]

the CUD is a CUD. Blakesley applies to planchet clips at 180 degrees from the clip, with Cuds the obverse MAY show a weak area of the devices due to lack of full pressure where the missing piece of die is located.

as to the '82-P, reverse is a die with major wear & possible poor strike, BUT-- the obverse at the date & star-- is likely grease fill.

toss the '82, not much value with the small area affected ----- the CUD---- figger $15---MINIMUM --- up to $25, I now have a major BOLO on that one

I think that Blakesley also applies to decent-sized cuds, too. If you could post pics of the obverse, we could see if it is a cud or not. Devices should be weak on the obverse in the region of the cud. I find it hard to believe that this is a cud, since 2013 is so recent. The newest Jeff cud I ever saw was a 2001, but last year I did find a nice BU 2016-P Rosie with a shattered obverse die.

 

[TwoYewts]

a large number of errors I have are not listed with cudsoncoins

PEA! you are not doing your due diligence, get some pics uploaded and credited to your CRHing excellence

 

[Styfflin]

I think that Blakesley also applies to decent-sized cuds, too. If you could post pics of the obverse, we could see if it is a cud or not. Devices should be weak on the obverse in the region of the cud. I find it hard to believe that this is a cud, since 2013 is so recent. The newest Jeff cud I ever saw was a 2001, but last year I did find a nice BU 2016-P Rosie with a shattered obverse die.

Why are you doubting a 2013-P nickle with a cud because it is "recent" when you acknowledge that you found an even more extreme and more recent error in the 2016-P dime with a shattered die? Makes no sense. Errors happen and are still happening.
I'm not sure if that's a cud or not, but I do know that weak devices do not always happen on the opposite side of the coin.

 

[port ewen ace]

as a rule I don't list the frequent fliers--- Eagle & State die cracks. they can be a single up to 6 cracks on qtrs. from '92-'98--- all P mint. the state issues all get sorted by year & state & put in wrappers until I can group them for sale in lots. some day I will get a complete set of all 57 states

have about $70 face in Eagles & about $100 face in 1999 to 2017's.

just shipped 3 Lincolns to a loyal bulk buyer of errors------ $12 for TREE CENTS --- makes sense ta meself

 

[enamel7]

I want to see a pic of the obverse. I agree something looks a little off.

 

[Death&Taxes]

Why don't you weigh it? that will put this whole thing to rest.

 

[port ewen ace]

Why don't you weigh it? that will put this whole thing to rest.

because it has nothing to do with weight. it's unpressed planchet metal. even if it was lead- the difference would be less than 1/10th of a gram--- could be Uranium from the Russians

 

[Death&Taxes]

because it has nothing to do with weight. it's unpressed planchet metal. even if it was lead- the difference would be less than 1/10th of a gram--- could be Uranium from the Russians

Why don't you at least try to weigh it? Almost all nickels with little circulation weigh in at 4.99-5.01 grams. I agree with enamel 7; I have handled and discovered many cuds before, but this one does not have the appearance of one. It is wavy and bubbly, and the sides are very steep. There is no sign of die deterioration, and on a cud of this size I'd expect the devices near the cud to be very weak, or even sloping into the blob. This exhibits none of that, and I can practically guarantee you that it is just a bit of solder.

 

[Death&Taxes]

It cannot be a cud, because if you look on the right side of the blob, you will see that it is steepest further into the coin, and it becomes shallower and shallower until it hits the rim. Cuds don't do that.

 

[ugotit22]

I'm post the obverse tonight when I get going. It looks completely normal though

 

[ugotit22]

New pics with the reverse

 

[Death&Taxes]

Stick your finger under that thing and it will peal right off :/ Too bad it is not a real cud. One from 2013 would be crazy rare.

 

[port ewen ace]

New pics with the reverse

the obverse appears to have a weakness precisely where the lump sits-- compare a normal coin with the hair details at the rim--- still say it's a CUD

 

[port ewen ace]

New pics with the reverse

the obverse appears to have a weakness precisely where the lump sits-- compare a normal coin with the hair details at the rim--- still say it's a CUD. a photo in 1280 X 720 res. would give more details